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Last night I went to the Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross for the first time. It was very beautiful and solemn, and I felt blessed to have been there.

There was a word that was repeated while Father blessed the church buy exalting the cross. It's either Greek or Ukrainian, and I would like to know what it means. It's something like Hospodiprominlu. My spelling is phonically and not accurate. It was sung with much devotion, and very beautiful, and I would like to know what it means. Thank you.

In Christ,
Mary

"Hospodi pomiluj!"

It translates to "Lord, have mercy!"

This is off topic, but why would a Ukrainian Church have celebrated the feast yesterday?

Also, do you mean the liturgy was at night?

Andrew

Lord have mercy in Church Slavonic (and Ukrainian) is "Hospodi pomiluj".

Uncsertezs

I am not a Ukrainian so correct me if I'm wrong but, Hospodi po milou means Lord have mercy in Slavonic.


EDIT: Never mind, I'm a bit slow on the trigger

Thank you! Now I know why it was sung with such faith, devotion, and beauty.

I also liked singing:
To your cross we bow down and worship, sovereign Lord, and to Thy resurrection, we glorify.

So beautiful - like Heaven on Earth

Yes, we celibrated the feast at the Divine Liturgy last night. I was told it's a Holy Day of Obligation in our church. Yesterday was the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross, that's why we celibrated it then.

We are a small mission, so all Holy Days/Feast days are celibrated at night. If they were celibrated at any other time, no one would be able to attend.

I think Andrew's point is that "The Exaltation of the Holy Cross" is a Feast on the Roman (Latin Rite) calendar celebrated on September 14th (Gregorian).

In other words, does the UGCC calendar have it on the same day?

Amado

"I think Andrew's point is that "The Exaltation of the Holy Cross" is a Feast on the Roman (Latin Rite) calendar celebrated on September 14th (Gregorian).

In other words, does the UGCC calendar have it on the same day?

Amado"

Very sorry for the misundstanding and tone of my post. I didn't mean for it to 'sound' that way, and I did misunderstand the question....

Yes, the UGCC calandar does have the feast on the same day as the Latin church. This is one of the rare occations that a feast is celibrated Universally (at least to my knowledge) throughout the Church, including the Orthodox Church.

Peace,
Mary

We'll celebrate the Feast of the Elevation of the Cross in about a week and a half. That's why I was surprised that a Ukrainian church would be celebrating it now.

Andrew

The Ukrainian Catholics like some Orthodox have parishes following both Gregorian and Julian calendars for fixed feast days.
DRLB

Andrew,

From what I have learned, there are some churches in the UGCC who are on the Julian and others who are on the Gregorian Calendar. But I think the impetus is to eventually get them all on the Julian Calendar. I could be wrong about the last statement.

EDIT:

Father Deacon DIAK beat me to it!

What about the moveable ones? Also how many of each (if you know)? Just curious.

Andrew

It depends where you go. In the Metropolia of Philadelphia, most parishes are completely New Calendar, with a smattering of parishes that are completely Julian for fixed and moveable feasts. For example, St. George's in lower Manhattan, NYC, is completely Julian Calendar. In Canada,I believe, UGCC is a lot more Julian. Here is a link to St. Elias UGCC parish in Brompton, Ontario, which is completely Julian (and has a married priest). http://www.saintelias.com/ca/index.php

In Christ,
Dn. Robert

Why, that's not exceptional is it?

Andrew