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Dear friends

This is a heartfelt plea.


We have no less than 7 threads totalling 194 posts on the subject of homosexuality etc at present . As Alice says we have had times like this before and we never get anywhere.

Is it possible to have a break from this for a while - it seems to be getting an incredible amount of bandwith devoted to it ?

Yes I know I can ignore it - but these threads are taking over

Anhelyna - no prude but really exasperated at present

If it's any comfort, I share your exasperation. But it's not ALL bad. Patience!

Incognitus

Thanks for the sympathy

Care to make some nice choccie with a little spiritual comfort in it - and send it along .

I've been trying to eat a few squares of choccie tonight - and I really think that till the dental work has settled down I'd be better off with liquid stuff . Only have 1 more night for indulgences and then it's the Dormition Fast - so there's not much time left

Anhelyna

Wow! I'm glad I've been ignoring this whole subject. I don't have time for 194 messages of polemics.

Marc

I'm not sure I could take 194 messages of polemics on the subject of chocolate either!

Incognitus

The pope sees the urgency of the situation, and apathy on our part will do nothing to reverse it:

Ratzinger Warned in April 1st Lectu...uality...is an Objective Disorder"

The averasion on this forum to fighting the homosexual agenda is a perfect illustration of the kind of apathy that allows anti-Catholics to censor and silence us.

What precipitated my recent spate of threads on the subject was the utter disregard and apathy towards basic and fundamental Catholic principles illustrated on this thread by multiple posters:

Those violent gays, eyh?

I was hoping that the tenor of that thread, and the opposition to orthodoxy it represented, and the lack of moderation, was an isolated case here.

So I posted several other threads to see.

What I found was that very few posters were willing to defend orthodoxy, a handful are openly permitted to advance homosexual propaganda without active moderator input or guidance, and the rest of you are either apathetic, silent, or scornful towards those of us, like Ratzinger, myself, Dan, and a few others, who are willing to publ;icly oppose this agenda.

Anhelyna,

Amen!


DocBrian,

Last I checked this was the Byzantine Forum, not the Anti-homosexuality Forum. As for "defending orthodoxy", we each have our own passions, we each choose which battles we wish to fight and fight them in the way that we feel appropriate.

Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!

Doc,

You grossly micharacterize the issues discussed on the violent gays thread. In your published writings you advocate against "special rights" for homosexuals. Here, however, you go further and advocate against people with SSAD having the same rights and privleges as every other citizen. That posture goes, IMO, too far and provokes in me the immediate impulse to stand between the metaphorical adulteress and stone-throwers - with the stipulation that I am happy to be educated about the efficacy of this aggressive manner. Now this is (Dan L, please note) ALL about approach.

Doc, you have put the forum to the test and found it wanting. You have identified disagreement with you as dissent from the Magisterium, you have identified approaches that differ from yours as revealing a lack of orthodoxy. Can you reflect on the defects of your test? Can you find another resolution of the dissonance?

As previouly, I gladly support the postings from Kobzar and djs (we must think of a nice word incorporating the three letters djs).

Those who want a pro-hate forum can probably find one (I haven't looked, since I don't find that sort of thing either edifying or amusing, but I'm only too sure that such fora are around). This forum usually attracts people with a specific love for the Christian East, and that's an area of discussion quite sufficient to attract a diverse group of people with lots of differing viewpoints.

Incognitus

Oh, the irony.

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I have to agree with Anhelyna on this thread. It seems like we are preaching to the choir on this one. Two hundred plus posts in less than a week, going back and forth seems to imply we are fixated on this subject. Instead on rehashing things here, it should be our job to educate the faithful who are ignorant of such matters as to the teachings of the faith.

There are other subjects to query each other on, and to have the amount of threads running concurrently on the same matter seems to be beating the "horse" into the ground. Remember we have a number of visitors, and when they see the multiplicity of threads dealing with one issue, it may not be a point to teach but sometimes it turns people off.

Just for the record, I uphold Church teachings on the issue, and find the lifestyle to be personally distasteful.

Enough said on the issue. Let us get on with other things. :rolleyes:

In IC XC,
Father Anthony+

Dear Anhelyna - I LOVE your taste in irony!

Dear Father Anthony - you are entirely right. With a little effort, I trust that Alice, djs and your humble servant can find much more interesting things to agree about - or disagree about, if it comes to that.

Does anybody have a recipe for Imperial Torte?

Incognitus

No I do not have the recipe, but if you can find a good one, I would love to give it a try.

Father Anthony+

Too late now Father

unless , of course , you are .....

as Alex would put it , on the True ....err ..........