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A rather odd article, but are they seriously considering this. I think their 'inquiring minds' are going a bit too far....

Humans to decipher the DNA of God and clone another Christ
http://english.pravda.ru/society/anomal/75627-0/

My "little" brother (six foot one and 255 lbs and set the squat record at our high school for the heavy weight class at over 500 lbs!) had this idea when I was reading The DNA of God by Garza-Valdes but that book has to be at least 5 years old, but the story did come from Pravda; did anyone read what else was on that site?

My brother's idea was that the DNA on the shroud is fragmented, which I believe is, and that to get a whole gene that it would have to be spliced in with another sample to make a complete gene. There's the problem, the jimmy-rigged (I was going to use another word that starts with a B, but I didn't know if I would get in trouble ) genes would be mutated from the original Holy DNA and that's how the man would be able to be possessed by the devil itself. Sounds like a movie to me!

PS There is a Church in Italy where the Antichrist is painted almost exactly like Our Lord. If he's going to fool the world he will probably look just like Our Lord.

PPS My blood type is AB just like the blood on the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium of Ovieto. AB is rare only 3% of people in the world have it. The Rh factor of the Shroud and Sudarium is negative whereas mine is positive. AB- persons only make up 3% of AB blood types. Our Lord's (and Our Lady's) blood is the rarest of the rare!!!

PPPS This is actually kind of scary since if some sicko didn't already have this idea, now he does. Like criminals watch CSI and now can fool the forensic scientists because they know the tricks!

Well Doc this one is kind of weird, but it fits with the weirdness of this story. The fact is there is a certain amount of truth to it too.

Are Christians Being Groomed to Accept The Coming Antichrist?
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story298.htm

Give me a physical break! These folks sound like a bunch of kooks.

We don't need to clone Christ. He is already physically present in the Holy Eucharist, and has been for nearly 2000 years.

Just let me read the Gospel passage before Divine Liturgy and hopefully gain a new insight during the Priest's Homily. Then, I will be as happy as a jaybird - a favorite phrase of my great-grandfather, Patrick Poland of County Down, just east of Belfast.

Pani Rose:

I read on the website that Thomas Horn has appeared on Art Bell's "Coast to Coast" and Pat Robertson�s "The 700 Club."

Enough said.

JP

I remember reading a tract or something at Assumption Greek Orthodox Church in Des Peres, MO (That's at I-270 and Manchester Road on the Outer Road if John Patrick Poland reads this! The whole church is covered in Icons!!! Bellissima!!!)

The theologian wrote that the world will be so depraved at that point that they will willingly accept the mark which could actually be the six hundred three score and six mark instead of a bar code or computer chip. We all know of stupid teenagers (not our ByzanTeens) who draw the 666 or hold up the horned hand or wear demons on their shirts etc... When the time comes I believe that the world will be so evil no one will even notice when the Antichrist comes, except they'll (not us) love him!

Are we close to that time? Closer than yesterday!

I haven't read the article, (wasn't able to read it on my stone age computor), but the DNA would have to be of Christ's mother. Actually, Jesus' physical body is a clone of His mother. He only had one physical parent, the other parent was and is Pure Spirit.

Basically, Mary gave her physical characteristics to form Jesus' physical nature.

Zenovia

What a waste of resources. They should be trying to do something that will make people well.

ICXC
NIKA

Dear Pani Rose you said:

"�Well Doc this one is kind of weird, but it fits with the weirdness of this story. The fact is there is a certain amount of truth to it too.

Are Christians Being Groomed to Accept The Coming Antichrist?"

I say:

Actually the spirit of the antichrist has always been here. He appeared many times, for instance; Stalin, Hitler, etc.

Now the final antichrist, the man of total evil, will be brilliant, (or so it has been said), and a philanthropist. From what I've gathered from different prophecies, is that he will be 'New Age' because he will be a spiritual leader as well as a world leader. Most people will be fooled by him.

What we have now is a world economy, and the means; such as our media and it's broadcasting for world propaganda, as well as computor chips, where everyone can be controlled. So imagine a scenario where there are suicide bombers blowing themselves up all over the world, and the only means we have of protecting ourselves is to have a chip implanted in everyone's hand for identification.

Actually, our society seems to have evolved into that which is mentioned in the prophecies, except for one thing. I have read that in the time of the antichrist, babies will be able to speak in nine months. (Can't recall what prophecy that one was).

Well thank heaven that hasn't happened yet, or I would really be worried. Actually though I am worried, not for my self though because I am quite old, but for my grandchildren. I pray that they will have the discernment that only God's Grace can give them. Without it, they will become lost souls...and what can be worse.

Zenovia

Dear Dr. Eric you said:

"The theologian wrote that the world will be so depraved at that point that they will willingly accept the mark which could actually be the six hundred three score and six mark instead of a bar code or computer chip."

I say:

I recall a Orthodox Jewish girl telling me that in Hebrew the number seven means 'complete' and on to eternity. Because of that, I tend to believe that the number 666 is referring to the fact that the antichrist is incomplete. In other words, satan.

Zenovia

Zenovia,
I have heard that the 6 is symbolically imperfect too. This kinda reinforces my "little" brother's theory that the fragmented DNA will have to be spliced with another sample. (They Saved Hitler's Brain or some other B movie script ) It also reminds me of Jurassic Park in that the dinosaur DNA had to be spliced as well!

Soloviev also had the theory that he would be a pacifist, a vegetarian (as was Hitler,) philanthropist, and a theologian. (Reminds me of George Soros!)

This is just a question, but for those who believe in the weeping statues of Mary, are those HER tears of blood? If they are, can DNA be gotten from a sample of that blood?

The DNA could be extracted, if the substance was biotic, and could certainly be amplified, which is not the same thing as replicated, and possibly replicated as well. The point could be made about the original article whihc prompted this thread..I thought there was a dispute over the authenticity of the turin shroud? Carbon dating, by the way is fairly accurate up to 50,000 yrs from memory (did stuff on fossil record at University last year).

NW

I think the findings were disputed among the scientist themselves. The great news it was fake was followed hot on it's heals by news from various scientists who cast doubt on the whole process and in some ways they were back to square one. We were none the wiser for their efforts in the end.

ICXC
NIKA