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Garza-Valdes makes the case in the book The DNA of God that there is bacterial growth on the shroud that confounds carbon-14 dating. He holds examples of certain Aztec and Mayan artifacts of which we know the exact dates of production that are tens of thousands of years old if carbon-14 dated.

The shroud has been authenticated by other leaders in various fields. Many are Jewish!

Check out www.shroud.com [shroud.com] to learn more.

Dear Dr. Eric you said:

"Soloviev also had the theory that he would be a pacifist, a vegetarian (as was Hitler,) philanthropist, and a theologian. (Reminds me of George Soros!)

I say:

I had a good laugh with that one...George Soros that is! Would fit the bill, but he seems to lack the charisma.

Well there is an old Catholic prophecy that says the antichrist will come from the place of the Huns. So there it is: George Soros. He is from Hungary you know.

For a while I thought it might be the Dalai-Lama, after all, didn't the the Huns originate in Western China. But nah! He's too old!

Zenovia

Bill Clinton?

Dear Pani Rose,

Nah! I don't think it's Bill Clinton. He certainly had the charisma, but I don't think he has much of a following. Then again he doesn't seem to have 'any' spiritual leanings. I recall seeing him in a church on TV and he had this quizzical look on his face. I guess he was wondering what it's all about.

Zenovia

Zenovia,
I believe that the Early Church Fathers were in favor of the Anti-Christ also being from the Tribe of Dan. I think we covered this in an earlier thread!

Dr. Eric

Bacteria shouldn't matter. You could disinfest the tested material.

N

Brother Ned,

I am not qualified to answer that one, I'm just giving the theories in the book. That could be, but his theory is that it wasn't done and it messes up the results.

By the way, the other theory is that if you look at my new Icon, it seems to be a copy of the face on the Holy Shroud. Others have wondered why all of the Icons of Our Lord have a certain look, the theory is that the Shroud made its way around the East and by viewing it they came up with the Iconographic rules for writing Our Lord's face. Especially those that are early Icons like the one from Sinai or the one from Ravenna.

Would our esteemed Iconographers care to comment?

Dr. Eric

I was reading over the comments here and remembered an article I found some time ago.

Here was one on Italy
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...&list_uids=9544559&dopt=Abstract

On the statue from Akita Japan
http://www.pdtsigns.com/icons.html

Now I don't know much about the statue they are referring to, but I did find the results of the test they did on it interesting and the comments of the priest.
http://www.loveandmercy.org/loveandmercy/statue.htm

So it kind of sounds like some whako could really do something like that...Oh My, God have mercy on us all!

Dear Pani Rose,

One of the articles stated the icons of Mary that cried in Hempstead, N.Y. I recall that event.

It was a time when miracles were unheard of. The mainstream Protestants, unlike the Evangelicals of today, believed that miracles ceased at the time of Christ.

When the first icon of Mary, (a paper copy of a Western icon), started tearing, it was the woman's Catholic neighbor who notified everyone. The newspapers soon took whiff of it, and the reporters came to disprove it. They were shocked when the Archbishop removed the paper copy from the frame, and it continued tearing. Well that made it big news in NYC. Thousands came to see it.

The icon was taken to the church, and I had recently read a book on it by the priest. He stated that three doves followed the procession and circled around the church for quite some time. The woman was then given a second icon and that started tearing too, as well as a third one when the second was taken to the Archdiocese.

I saw the first icon in church, and noticed a shaded triangle around Mary's eye. The triangle began to recede, and to be certain it was not an illusion, I sort of measured the spaces with my eye.

On another day I went with my mother to the woman's house, and was taken to a room where there were many icons. My eye fell on a spot of the Virgin's arm, and it began to sweat. The same thing happened with an icon of Saint Barbara that was said to also be tearing.

Now, I have always been curious as to why Saint Barbara was tearing. We Orthodox have her for sicknesses, and I did hear that the woman that had the icon did get sick, as did others in her family. But I also know that Saint Barbara is considered the patron saint of those working with armaments in the West.

Well I once heard that during the Eisenhower administration, he was considering alternative fueling. He had considered developing solar energy, but the pentagon pushed for nuclear energy in case of a war. I also believe that he was the one that decided to give nuclear information to other nations for their own energy needs. Something that helped facilitate these nations in developing the bomb themselves.

I can't find this information in order to verify it, but it would be interesting to know if that is why Saint Barbara was crying. As for our Lady crying, I have my own personal viewpoints on that. I believe it was because so many churches would fall into grave apostasy.

Then again, I believe this event was around 1960, and the Vietnam war started a few years later ...as did so many other things such as Roe vs. Wade and the removal of prayers in school.

Zenovia

Very interesting Zenovia - Thanks!

It is cool and interesting to have had the opportunity to be a part of what God was doing in that time and place.

Rose