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How does one interpret this?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041116/ts_nm/iraq_hassan_dc

Dan L

Who knows? How could you verify any of it?

If it does appear on Al Jezeera and if her body is found so that her husband can bury her remains it will be verified. What troubles me is what continued horrific violence in the name of Allah tells us about Islam. One cleric ruefully observed, "Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims." Honesty is the best policy. What is to be done?

Dan L

Hmmm What would he have to say about members of the IRA (mostly baptized Catholic) or their opposite numbers in the Ulster Defense Force (baptized Anglican or Presbyterian)? Or Tim McVeigh??? Terrorists come from all Faiths and parts of the world. Gospodi Pomilui!

Dear Dan,

Members of the Forum might begin by toning down some of the recent vitriol here . . .

Then we can tackle the terrorists with a clear conscience . . .

Right, Orthodox-in-communion-with-Rome?

Alex

Ok Alex, I've becalmed myself. The IRA in Northern Ireland are Pikers compared with the terrorism we've seen from Islam. What is one to do? Is prayer all we are asked?

Dan L

Dan, I saw something interesting on TV today. Apparently there is a large mosque being built in Boston. The city did some sweetheart deal with the Muslims and sold the land to them for far less than it was worth. The show pointed out that some prominent supporters of terrorism are on the board of directors for the mosque - didn't know they had boards of directors. According to the announcer/commentator, the issue is so politically correct the Boston newspaper won't touch it. Evidently, it is feared the mosque might be a cover for terrorists in this country. Do you know anything about this???

Charles,

If you want to read Boston press coverage regarding the mosque controversy, see:

Rep slams mosque leader\'s writings [business.bostonherald.com]

Jewish remarks draw criticism to Boston mosque [publicbroadcasting.net]

Islamic radical tied to new Boston mosque [business.bostonherald.com]

Many years,

Neil

Here's coverage from another perspective:

CBN News: "Boston Mosque: the Rise of Radical Islam?" [cbn.com]

Byzantn,

Here I'm trying to be calm and pretend that evil isn't evil and you send a post like this. Sigh..what's a calm person like me to do? :rolleyes: No, I hadn't heard about this.
Have you read Bat Ye'or's, "Dhimmitude" or "The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam" or Stephen Schwartz's, "The Two Faces of Islam"? Never mind. Don't look behind the curtain. Just sing "Kum bye Yah". We're as evil as the others and we deserve total anihilation.

Kum by Yah, my Lord, Kum by Yah...

Dan L

Thanks, Deacon John and Neil, for the information. Dan, sorry to intrude on your calmness, but you know full well that evil is evil, and you would be among the first to say so. Whether we are as evil as others is for God to say, but it seems to me that we are much more kind to some of our enemies than they would be to us in similar circumstances.

Hey IM:

Nothing from the Morrissey boulevard bum-kissers?

Dear Dan,

The American soldier who ALLEGEDLY shot an unarmed Muslim insurgent in the head the other day wasn't singing "Kum ba ya" when he did that.

At least that wasn't what CNN was blocking out in his discourse.

As for what can be done, certainly you aren't suggesting a Christian holy war on all Muslims?

What do YOU feel should be done? It sounds like you've already reached a conclusion that you're not sharing with anyone just yet.

Alex

Given the long history of aggression by Islamic nations one is tempted to look for an all encompassing solution to the Islamic problem. However, I'm resisting the temptation. After all Crazy Horse tried the same thing, was successful for a season, and then was murdered. I do believe the analogy comparing European Americas treatment of the Native Americans to Islam's treatment of the entire world is very apt. Hence, all out no holds bar war to eliminate Islam is not practical and of course it is not justified by our tradition.

There does seem to be two options which might work. The Isolationists and Libertarians are won't to say, "It's not our problem. We should keep out." It's a foolish position because Radical Islam is our problem. However, it does have a certain appeal. If we took our hands off and let Israel deal with the problem I suspect that they would wipe out most if not all of the Arab nations in rather short order. It seems a bit radical of a solution but it may be a successful option.

Another option which would take a bit longer but could be started fairly soon is just cut off the oil tap. Stop buying oil from all nations that support dar al harb. Don't buy oil from Saudi Arabia or Iran or any other dar al Islam nation. Not one drop. Furthermore, stop sending aid to any nation that supports terror. No aid to Egypt or Syria or another other nation. Make them not only stop sending aid to these terrorists but make them prove it.

A third option would be a combination of the two.

I'm also convinced that nothing will work to stop these people from trying to subjagate the world as long as they are Islamic. Hence, the Church must send thousands of missionaries into these lands. Jihad in the aggressive warlike definition of the term will not stop until one of two things happen. First, Muslim are converted from within or they are converted to Christ. Second, or they are destroyed.

Dan L

Dan

I could not agree more.

Jason B.