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Dear Incognitus,
Although the term "Pox on one's house" is used as a curse, its original form is, of course, "Pax" on this house.
This is still used in the Old Believe tradition when a priest enters a house.
Do our priests say something similar when they come to bless the house for Yordan?
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Dear Alex, Well, I remember the time - more years ago than I would care to admit! - that I was assisting a Carpatho-Russian priest with house blessings at Theophany time (this means that I was chanting while Father was slinging the Holy Water). We approached one house in the late afternoon, and heard the sounds of, ah, "revelry" through the window, followed by a despairing wail of "[Expletive deleted] - here comes the priest!". Father rang the door-bell, and after a longish wait, during which we could here the sound of bottles and other appurtenances of festivity being stashed away, the lady of the house opened the door. We said "Slava Isusu Khrystu" and she replied "Vo istinu voskres". Incognitus
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Dear Incognitus, That reminds me of my wife's baptism. One of the priests got lubricated in advance and began to mention every woman's saint in the calendar during the celebration of the Mystery. So now, when I read the Saints of the day in the calendar each morning and come across the name of a female saint, I wish my wife a "Happy Namesday." Things could be worse, Incognitus. You could be living near me . . . Alex
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Dear Alex,
Is your wife a convert to Catholicism, then?
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Dear Tammy, I've been trying to get my wife to lead a proper Catholic life for years . . . But no, she was born that way . . . enough said . . . Alex
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Dear Alex, I converted 9 years ago. I still haven't figured out how to live a proper Catholic life! Tammy
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Dear Tammy, When you find out, will you let me know?! And I'm absolutely not going to say anything about Daniel the Byzantine Ascetic! So please don't provoke me . . . Alex
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As a convert of 21 years, I have always said that "I am a practicing Catholic. Someday I hope to get it right."
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Just today I noticed a brief passage in a text for 5 January (Church Calendar, of course): Khrystos iavyvsia u Iordani (it's in the Apolytkion of the Paramony). Those who feel the need for a suitable greeting for this feast might consider using it - presumably with the first two words as the greeting and the second two words as the response. Incognitus
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Along these lines, an Armenian site has for Christmas/Theophany: Christ was born and made manifest. Blessed is the manifestation of Christ. http://www.saintsarkis.org/how_to_address.htm
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Originally posted by incognitus: Just today I noticed a brief passage in a text for 5 January (Church Calendar, of course): Khrystos iavyvsia u Iordani (it's in the Apolytkion of the Paramony). Those who feel the need for a suitable greeting for this feast might consider using it - presumably with the first two words as the greeting and the second two words as the response. Incognitus I'm confused. After chiding us originally for using "invented greetings", you feel it isnow ok for us to "invent" a greeting now that you have found one suitable for us? ????????? Steve
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Empirical observation: I've just enjoyed the Theophany round of services. No one at all accosted me with "Christ is baptized" - not in any language. A young student from Eastern Slovakia greeted me with "Slava Isusu Khrystu"; everyone from Ukraine greeted me and one another with "Khrystos rozhdaietsia". This reminds me that I've often spent Theophany in Western Ukraine, and never once have I heard that recently-invented "Theophany greeting" used by anyone in Ukraine to myself or anyone else. The feast days were joyful and grace-filled - hope the same was true for everyone, regardless of what greetings people employ! Incognitus
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