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... to all our friends who follow the Gregorian Calendar.
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Andrij
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Originally posted by KO63AP:
... to all our friends who follow the Gregorian Calendar.
Best wishes,
Andrij HUH - I see confusion is setting in again  I presume that the start of the Liturgical year is the topic under discussion - yes ? so please refresh my failing memory RC Church - new Liturgical year starts 1st Sunday in Advent - agreed ? So why do Byzantine OC folk start at the beginning of September ? And to add to my confusion, what about Byzantine NC folk ? And I don't mean to insult anyone - honest - I'm just as usual . Anhelyna
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Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love: Originally posted by KO63AP:
[b] ... to all our friends who follow the Gregorian Calendar.
Best wishes,
Andrij
I presume that the start of the Liturgical year is the topic under discussion - yes ?[/b]Yes. RC Church - new Liturgical year starts 1st Sunday in Advent - agreed ? I'll take your word for it.  So why do Byzantine OC folk start at the beginning of September ?
And to add to my confusion, what about Byzantine NC folk?
And I don't mean to insult anyone - honest - I'm just as usual .
Anhelyna As to why the Liturgical year begins on 1/14 November, I must confess I don't recall  I read an explanation a while back, but can't remember the details. I'm sure one of our more learned colleagues will jump in to answer this one. Andrij
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I have no idea why the BC Church celebrates New Years' on 1 Sep, but it sure was fun last night!!!  Thanks Andrij! Happy 7512 everyone (now or later )! Slava Isusu Christu! Glenn :-)##
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner
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Dear Brethren,
In the Orthodox church, it is the beginning of the new Liturgical year...I presume that it is the same for the Byzantine Catholics.
In Christ,
Alice
P.S. Having kids in school for the better part of my life and continuing...September always was the beginning of the year for me! Ladies...do you relate to this??
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The Orthodox Christian Liturgical Year
by Father Paul Albert
In the Orthodox Christian Church, September 1st marks the beginning of the Liturgical Year. Our liturgical year is expressed as a calendar, much like the secular calendar. It contains the same 365 days, only from September to September. From ancient times, man has been deeply tied to the seasonal cycles of the year. September represents the culmination of the growing season, the harvesting, the gathering of the crops into barns, the crown of the year, its completion, and the beginning of the new. September is the time when the Jews celebrated the New Year, and Sept. 1 has been celebrated as the Christian New Year since the time of the Emperor Constantine in the Fourth Century, AD......
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Thank you for that posting above, Alice. A friend of mine recently wished me "Happy Church New Year" and I had had no idea ...
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Alice, I definatley can realte! Mothers would be totally confused about the seasons of the year without the school buses running up and down the roads. How else would be know what is going on
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Teachers can relate, too!
Happy New Year to those celebrating.
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Originally posted by Inawe:
Teachers can relate, too!
Happy New Year to those celebrating.
Steve Yes of course - the Academic year - so long out of it I had forgotten - though it is great to watch them all trooping off to School in the mornings - whilst I have my post breakfast coffee
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Originally posted by alice:
Dear Brethren,
In the Orthodox church, it is the beginning of the new Liturgical year...I presume that it is the same for the Byzantine Catholics.
In Christ,
Alice
P.S. Having kids in school for the better part of my life and continuing...September always was the beginning of the year for me! Ladies...do you relate to this?? Definately...Living in NC has thrown me off up to now, because school here starts in August and I think of the new school year being in September, which meant that I didn't really consider the kids in school until after Labor Day. When we decided to home-school this year the obvious choice for a start date was the day after Labor Day. Happy New Year to all... lets see, it's 2003 for my Roman friends and family, 58something for my Jewish family and 7512 for us... Good thing I don't have friends from other cultures...I would never know which date to put on my checks.
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Dear Friends,
Yes happy NC Church New Year and Happy Orthodox Environment Day!
His All-Holiness the Patriarch of New Rome declared the Church New Year as "Day of the Environment" as well.
Our celebration of the liturgical New Year in September is related to our Jewish heritage, to be sure.
But the end of August marks the end of the cycle of the lives of Christ and His Mother and so we begin the "Year of Salvation" anew in September with the Feast of the Nativity of the Mother of God (September 8).
The West later celebrated the beginning of Advent as such as it begins the celebration of the coming of Christ in the Flesh.
Christmas Day was, for a long time, the secular "New Year's Day" in Europe. New Year's Day today is the Octave Day of Christmas which is celebrated for 12 days, as we know.
The Romans marked their secular new year's day on April 1st and April Fools' Day celebrations keep that holiday alive (as does the "fiscal year end" on March 31).
The Ethiopian Church celebrates its New Year's Day in September, as does all of Ethiopia, or at least it did before the coming of communism.
One Ukie church here have begun to have "Ukrainian Church New Year's Day" celebrations together with wishing each other "Happy New Year."
Personally, I think this is a great idea.
Even though we follow the Julian Calendar, January 1 is marked as the secular New Year in Eastern Europe nomatter what and January 14th has just fallen by the wayside.
So one can get a Christmas card from there that says, "Happy New Year and a Joyful Nativity (on Jan. 7th)!"
Quite nonsensical . . .
In fact, our liturgical rules do NOT allow for the celebration of a new year other than the liturgical new year on September 1/14.
We can make this a truly spiritual New Year's Day celebration . . .
I also know that Celtic Americans now frequently observe November 1st, or the beginning of "Samhain" (pronounced "Sow-an") as the Celtic New Year.
Alex
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