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WND DEATH OF A PONTIFF
Islamists enraged by pope coverage
'I have started to hate Al-Jazeera for the multiplicity of information'
Posted: April 4, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern


� 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

It's not only American networks providing non-stop coverage surrounding the death of Pope John Paul II, but Arab stations as well, sparking anger from Islamic extremists.

Satellite channels including Qatar-based Al-Jazeera and Dubai-based Al-Arabiya have been providing widespread information about the pontiff's life and death since he died Saturday at the age of 84.

Documentaries have been airing throughout the Muslim world highlighting John Paul II's appeals for peace and dialogue between all faiths and civilizations.

But according to Agence France-Presse, Islamic websites are filled with heated rhetoric, blasting the Arab networks for assigning the pope such importance.

One writer said viewers of Al-Jazeera were "annoyed" with continuous reports eulogizing the pontiff, whom the user described as an "old tyrant."

"What is mortifying is that this hooligan channel pretends [to defend] Islam," added the user, who wrote under the name Muhib al-Salihine on the Islamic News Network, a website often used by Islamist terrorists operating in Iraq.

"What is more humiliating � I think that it was Al-Arabiya channel � is that the imam of a mosque ... praised the memory [of the pope]," said Seri Eddine le Libyen on the same site, according to the wire service.

"I have started to hate Al-Jazeera for the multiplicity of information on the grieving" for the pope, said another.

In Lebanon, half a dozen stations, including Al-Manar satellite television of the terror group Hezbollah, interrupted its regular programming to announce the death of the pope, and then began broadcasting live from the Vatican.

Iraq's public network Iraqiya also broke in for coverage.

Hollywood Reporter notes the passing of the pope has become a magnet for coverage, across political boundaries.

"There was no CNN or World Wide Web in 1978, the last time the Catholic Church underwent a historic papal transition," the paper states.

Meanwhile, an editorial in Italy's Il Messagero newspaper says, "Karol Wojtyla would not have become Pope Wojtyla without the media. Something he was very much aware of. No one was as aware as he was of the importance of the media in our present time. Similarly no one, to the extent that he was, knew how to exploit with such amiable ruthlessness its immense potential."
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43630

Consider the source... Why would anyone expect anything different?

yes, I was just doing that....can worldnetdaily be considered a legitimate news souce? I think not. And to be honest, I'm more than a bit tired of all the papal stuff too. what's the big deal? John XXIII was a much better Pope!

No doubt, moe, you are a subscriber to Il Messagero...

Gordo

If the new Pope really wants to enrage the Islamic extremists, he can take the name Mohammad for his papal name.

Gaudior, who thinks this might cause them all to spontaneously combust, thereby solving that problem

Friends,

One sane and consistent voice in all of this is Bat Ye'or an obvious pseudonym. She doesn't wish to be murdered by Arab terrorists as others have been. Her family fled Egypt several years ago and she has been recording the plight of the Dhimmi to the world every since. Typically her detractors include Islamicists and their only objection is not based upon the facts of the matter but upon the fact that she is non-Arab. They say like a nauseating and ignorant diatribe "consider the source". Those who make their judgements upon the facts of the matter do and find her to be very accurate and very credible.

Here's an article announcing her latest book:

"Bat Ye'or, a historian, has published groundbreaking works on minorities and "dhimmitude" (their inferior status) under Islam, including Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide (2002). Her latest book, Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis (Fairleigh Dickinson University Press, 2005), argues that European governments, especially the French, have developed foreign policies aimed at winning the favor of Middle Eastern regimes and appeasing the growing militant Islamic minorities in their midst. Bat Ye'or addressed the Middle East Forum in New York on February 7, 2005."

The entire article can be found at:

http://www.meforum.org/article/696

Dan Lauffer

Or they will ram a jetliner into Vatican City.

Dan Lauffer

Please consider the source, folks. That the media in Islamic countries is covering the Pope demonstrates that many there DO have an interest in world affairs outside of the Islamic box. Those who are enraged are radical extremists, who give no good example to the religion of peace. They forget that this was the first Pope to step foot in a mosque.

In the meantime, our media is introducing the same issues brought up in the last two papal elections: abortion rights, women priests, and approval of homosexuality. I wonder if the Islamic media is concerned about these Western issues? After Terrie Schiavo, Catholic teaching/tradition on the priesthood, and the recent pedophile scandals, our media certainly has a short-term memory.

That the Islamic media is covering his life history helps instruct the ignorant and those who are given false fears.

Someday, the falsehood of extremism on both sides of the pond will be found out.

Joe

Gaudior,

LOL. Thanks I needed that.

I nominate you as David Letterman's backup for the "Late Show."

God bless you.

Paul

What religion is this that you are talking about. Islam means "submission". To the Wahhabists who seem to have a stranglehold on much of Islamic opinion peace will only come when everyone submits to their radical views. While it is true that many in the Islamic world do not share the Wahhabists views of radical political domination, many do.

I disagree. I think those who are most angry with Catholics and more moderate Muslims are angry precisely because the Pope did set foot in a mosque.

Dan,

I think we both know the difference between what Islam claims and what Islam does. WYSIWYG.

Christianity claims to be the religion of love, but its history shows something different at times. Did the Catholics and Protestants always get along like kumbaya?

That the Islamic media is covering the Pope's death and life should make heads turn. They can simply choose to ignore the whole deal. But they aren't. Even Syria will be represented at the Pope's funeral by President Bashar Assad. Again, like most Islamic cuntries, he could have simply stayed home.

The radical and extremist Islamicists can get angry until they are blue in their face. In fact, I hope they do.

Just as there are those who grew angry to witness the Pope enter a mosque, the Pope was also welcomed there. They could have told him to stay out.

They can say all sorts of nasty things about the Pope, Christianity, and the West - nothing new here - but if an Islamic cleric gets up and expresses his condolences, then that is progress. He didn't have to.

Joe

Even more relevant to this forum is her work "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude : The Seventh to the Twentieth Century". This book is available at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...249735?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

and Light and Life in Minneapolis.

I own this text and have read several sections, but not the whole of it as yet. What I have read is incredible and very revealing.

Many years,

Gordo

Gordo,

Your link really distorts my display.

Joe

Gordo,

Thanks for the reminder. It gives me another opportunity to remind everyone not only about the three works now referenced by Bat Ye'or but also her groundbreaking work "The Dhimmi". One should also read Stephen Schwartz, "The Two Faces of Islam".

We use the following books in my Comparative Religion classes:

Bat Ye'or, "The Dhimmi" and "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam"

Stephen Schwartz, "The Two Faces of Islam"

Wolf, "Taking Back Islam"

Elinor Burkitt, "So Many Enemies"

There are some others I'm trying to get for our college library but they haven't arrived.

I believe as with any issue so with Islamic-non-Islamic issues we must look at all aspects with clear reason.

Islam has presented the world with both 1400 years of brutality but also with some of the greatest philosophical, mathmatical, and artistic offerings the world has known. It is both a Christian heresy and a civilizing influence. Is there a way to live at peace with Muslims without being dominated by them? The only way we are going to know is to keep talking with those who are not murderers and to keep up our guard against those who would wish us harm.

Both groups exist.

Dan L

"And to be honest, I'm more than a bit tired of all the papal stuff too. what's the big deal? John XXIII was a much better Pope!"

The fact that you would post such a rude and un-Christian comment while the Catholic Church is in the mourning period of its reposed Father only confirms that you are an ill-mannered dissident who that will take any opportunity to ridicule the teachings of the Church you disregard and those who defend the truth like our Holy Father, John Paul II did.

Fr. Deacon Lance