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I can only say I find that hard to believe with the extensiveness with which I saw it throughout the Metropolia...I will say I did see it as being less so in PA.

I've never had the pleasure of meeting Fr. Bitsko...All I could say regarding him was I have never heard a bad word about him. I have only heard high praise over the years and I think its sinful the way he has been treated.


Final thought...I have moved on and am very happy and feel most at home with ACROD. However, there is tremendous evil at play in the Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church in America...and heirarchs who turn a blind eye to it are complicit by their non actions...allowing untruths to be spouted...that which I know to be untrue (from first hand knowledge), I feel would make me part of the problem by not shedding light on the situation...I don't go looking for these issues...but when I see the "untrue corporate line" being spouted as fact...I would be immoral by not challenging them with the truth...I feel bad for my brothers and sisters in the OCA who have uncovered scandalous financial situations...they at least have priests vocally speaking out...that to me shows more health in a Church than having priests who know that is the case and feel better just "going with the flow" since the bishop won't be in place forever...(how many times I have heard that line makes me sick)

Chris

Yes. You have moved on. Leaving the rest of us to worry about our aging population of priests who were NOT greedy men and who did sacrafice for their people and their Church. How many of us will see the problem and actually do something?

When an aging man's very life depends on his bishop, it is not likely that he, or any of his friends, will speak too loudly about anything.

I agree it is a spiritual killer, but I do not blame the men who placed their lives in the hands of a hierarch and promised obedience and a life of heroic service to the Church, to the Body of Christ.

I pray you may remain comfortable.

Eli

I absolutely agree with you...our older priests did sacrifice and love their people and it is time to help them...it is the 60 and younger crowd that concerns me since they have been the ones to allow these abuses to occur and encourage them to continue...I have the utmost respect for these older priests...even those I don't agree with their latinizing ways have sacrificed alot more than the younger generations...

Eli lets allow this thread to get back to discussion of the revised DL...and move it to the thread that DCL set up in the town hall forum...

In fact Chris, it is long past time to help our aging clergy. For some it is much too late.

You forgot to mention something when you praised the trustees in a parish for not "overspending".

Sometimes that refusal to spend when the need first arose, resulted in long term disrepair that then became three, four, five...ten times more expensive as the degredation in the property spread. Some of our rectories are not worth doing over at all any more. You might think in terms of "penny wise and pound foolish."

The same thing has been done to far too many of our priests, and so off they go into oblivion and nobody even remembers to put flowers on a grave.

I don't have much more to say on the subject at any rate.

Besides you don't need to worry about it any more. I only hope, for the sake of your newly adopted Church, that you see a bit more clearly than is in evidence here.

Eli