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Originally Posted by Ray S.
Ann Coulter is great Catholic! She upholds the faith almost on a daily basis on her radio program. She goes to the Church in NY with EWTN's Father Rutleg (spelling?). She has recommend that Church to people in the NY area on more than one time on her radio program.

If "Trannie Annie" is such a good Catholic, why does she attend a Presbyterian Church?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter#Personal_life

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If "Trannie Annie" is such a good Catholic, why does she attend a Presbyterian Church?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter#Personal_life

I'm not that convinced that she is a member based on the Wikipedia posting. When you read the article, it appears that she once took a Time's reporter there for services, but none of the pastoral staff seems to know her at all. Perhaps it is a place she visits from time to time with friends? It could also be a way to throw to throw the media (and any far left wackos with pies) off of her ecclesiastical trail so she can enjoy Sunday services in her own parish in peace.

Of course, she might just be a periodic visitor to the church (where 4,400 people attend every Sunday). That does not mean she does not go to Sunday Mass (or the vigil on Saturday). Who knows...

But I just listened to the book on tape of "Godless" over the holidays. It really is worth a listen (or a read) as was "Treason" and "How to Talk to a Liberal if You Must" even if you don't agree with all of her positions.

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Ann Coulter strikes me as a vicious person. the fact she attends Mass or may be a faithful Catholic does not mean that I have to agree with her, and it does not negate the fact that her comments are often mean and cruel. What an unhappy person it is who criticizes Hally Barry for not really being the first black women to win an Oscar, because she is half white. Like that would have made a difference for Hally if she was trying to ride a bus or use a drinking fountain somewhere in the 1950's.

her recent attempts to rehability Joe McCarthy are mind boggling.

I am so tired of this idea that extreme right wing politics = good Christian. I agree with conservatives on many moral cultural issues and on the Life issue, but I get sick listening to talk radio or Fox news most nights.

I am fed up with those who say because I oppose the Iraq war that I am a "liberal traitor." Ann Coulter engages in the type of name calling debate that cheapen real discussion and attempts to grapple with difficult issues.

I suppose now people will bring up her mirror images on the left; I do not care, I do not like a lot of people on the left either. I have been disappointed with some people who are thought of as liberal lately for a variety of reasons, people who I have admired.

I make it a point to stay away from politics on this forum. I want to fellowship with people here. I know most of the people I admire on this forum probably have different politics than me.

I have had recently made a profound and deep commitment to historic Orthdoxy (both small and big O) and to the Holy Father. My Christian faith has held my life together as I have gone through miserable heartbreaking period in my life. I constantly have my bible, horologion and prayer rope with me. I am so tired of people questioning my Christianity because I am political liberal.

But I am so turned off by the conservative political message, Especially the Limbaughs, Savages, Hannity's and Coulters of the world. I think that they in their way are just as bad as some of the loony left. They teach their followers to hate their fellow Americans. I used to watch Hannity and Colmes almost every night, but all he does is constantly interrupt his guests.

Sorry for the vent.



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Originally Posted by DAVIDinVA
Originally Posted by Ray S.
Ann Coulter is great Catholic! She upholds the faith almost on a daily basis on her radio program. She goes to the Church in NY with EWTN's Father Rutleg (spelling?). She has recommend that Church to people in the NY area on more than one time on her radio program.

If "Trannie Annie" is such a good Catholic, why does she attend a Presbyterian Church?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter#Personal_life

To suggest that Ms. Coulter is really a man or once was a man is offensive. I don't care either way about her as I haven't really listened to what she says, but this is a Christian Forum and to refer to someone like that is less than Charitable.

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Ann Coulter strikes me as a vicious person. the fact she attends Mass or may be a faithful Catholic does not mean that I have to agree with her, and it does not negate the fact that her comments are often mean and cruel. What an unhappy person it is who criticizes Hally Barry for not really being the first black women to win an Oscar, because she is half white. Like that would have made a difference for Hally if she was trying to ride a bus or use a drinking fountain somewhere in the 1950's.

Hi Lance - vent away! Ok just a few things here:

1. To describe someone as a vicious person is to make a very strong judgement on their moral character. It is to ascribe gross immorality and savageness to them. Is that what you mean to say about her? If so, on what basis? Surely the "attack" on Halle Berry does not rise to that level.

2. As I recall, her comments about Halle Berry were not all about "race". First of all, Halle appeared as an emotional blithering basketcase on stage, winning an award for "Monster's Ball" which I understand (secondhand) was essentially a porno with more dialog. The press had made much of Berry's blackness, so my sense is that Ann's attack was probably more about the press' Political Correctness and constant assertion that blacks are still oppressed like they were in the 50's and 60's in Alabama - a patent absurdity. (Quite honestly, if I were an African-American I would not want Halle Berry's performance on the silver-screen - particularly in THIS film - touted as an advancement in my civil rights!)

3. You are quite right to assert that just because she goes to Mass we need to believe everything she teaches or to assume impeccability and infallibility on her part. I don't think anyone is asserting this, though.

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her recent attempts to rehability Joe McCarthy are mind boggling.

Lance, have you actually read "Treason"? I do not think she is attempting to rehabilitate Joe McCarthy, only debunk the liberal (Hollywood) mythology that has been created around this much maligned Catholic political figure. Piece by piece she tears through the liberal myths around the man and the era, and asserts facts to support an opposing view. I found reading this book as enlightening historically as reading Archbishop Elias Chacour's "Blood Brothers" in understanding Israel and the Middle East.

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I am so tired of this idea that extreme right wing politics = good Christian. I agree with conservatives on many moral cultural issues and on the Life issue, but I get sick listening to talk radio or Fox news most nights.

You and I are in agreement here. The two are not always synonomous. I have enjoyed reading the Compendium on Catholic Social teaching because it has challenged my conservative political views in good ways. It too me years to come around on the death penalty, but I'm there now.

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I am fed up with those who say because I oppose the Iraq war that I am a "liberal traitor." Ann Coulter engages in the type of name calling debate that cheapen real discussion and attempts to grapple with difficult issues.

Agreed. Of course, there are liberal traitors who do oppose the war, but that does not mean you are one of them. I would not call Pope John Paul II or Pope Benedict XVI liberal traitors either. But they oppose the war for different reasons than what I ofetn here from the left. THe fact that the Pope and the left's views are temporarily aligned on this issue (at least in part) does not mean total alignment. Also, even Pope Benedict admitted that there can be legitimate disagreement on a particular moral choice to go to war.

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I suppose now people will bring up her mirror images on the left; I do not care, I do not like a lot of people on the left either. I have been disappointed with some people who are thought of as liberal lately for a variety of reasons, people who I have admired.


Same. Look, I do not always like her style, but that is a personal thing. I try to listen to the substance of her arguments. She is shocking at times. For some, that is part of the appeal. It makes people listen, and she shocks I think to get people to question some of the absurdities that are passed off as basic assumptions by the media and the political left. I've heard some on the left do the same with conservative ideas. I'm not offended usually, but I think through the substance of what they are trying to assert. When you read her, she has something of the same sardonic style - but the facts are all there. It is tough to disagree.

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I make it a point to stay away from politics on this forum. I want to fellowship with people here. I know most of the people I admire on this forum probably have different politics than me.

Great point. I think that is why the Town Hall exists. It really gives us an opportunity to talk (in a CHristian context) about issues. I am not "saved" by Ann Coulter. I am saved by "Jesus Christ" - and the Church, as Pope Benedict reminds us, is not a political party.


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I have had recently made a profound and deep commitment to historic Orthdoxy (both small and big O) and to the Holy Father. My Christian faith has held my life together as I have gone through miserable heartbreaking period in my life. I constantly have my bible, horologion and prayer rope with me. I am so tired of people questioning my Christianity because I am political liberal.

I think you and Dorothy Day are in good company...and she is good company to keep.

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But I am so turned off by the conservative political message, Especially the Limbaughs, Savages, Hannity's and Coulters of the world. I think that they in their way are just as bad as some of the loony left. They teach their followers to hate their fellow Americans. I used to watch Hannity and Colmes almost every night, but all he does is constantly interrupt his guests.

Sorry for the vent.

I think that is a bit strong, don't you? They teach us to "hate"? Disagreement is not the same as "hate". Nor is even sarcasm or poking fun at the absurdities of others to make a point. I find Limbaugh and Coulter far more substantive than Hannity, but my favorites for tact and substance are Medved, Hewitt and (when he is on the radio - and in writing) Thomas Sowell. An African-American whose accomplishments are worth touting, as opposed to Halle's.

Take care, my friend!

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I'm no fan of Ann Coulter's, and among other things I find her taste in clothing pretty shocking for a conservative. However to suggest that she's really a man is a pretty baseless accusation, AND proof that conspiracy theories are by no means the exclusive domain of the far right.

P.S. I have the greatest admiration for Senator Joseph McCarthy.

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it does not negate the fact that her comments are often mean and cruel


Ann C. is the only major public figure on secular media I know of who is speaks up for Pro-Life on an almost daily basis.

I don't think it is EVER mean or cruel to mock and offend a Pro-Murder politician.

Just remember you CAN'T be pro-choice and a Christian at the same time.

So, Ann mock on and keep up the good work!

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I suppose I am old fashioned but I do believe that it is the professors who should determine the direction of higher education and who should be free to dictate the content. The democratisation and commercialization of higher education has done nothing but water it down. Peace in Christ,


[font:Comic Sans MS]Dear Joe,

The problem with most institutions of learning in this country, is that they tend to choose professors with the same opinions, leanings or tendencies as there own. In other words, how many would fully embrace, never the less hire , a social and religious conservative? eek

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But I am so turned off by the conservative political message, Especially the Limbaughs, Savages, Hannity's and Coulters of the world. I think that they in their way are just as bad as some of the loony left. They teach their followers to hate their fellow Americans. I used to watch Hannity and Colmes almost every night, but all he does is constantly interrupt his guests.
Dear Lanceg,

I'm not turned off by the conservative political message. Far from it, but lately FOX News bores me. The problem is that there's no alternative. I turn on CNN and NBC and all I get is spin and Bush bashing. It's so weird! From the moment I turn those stations on, everything they say is denigrating towards this administration in some way. Fine, they have their opinions, but must it always be imposed on the viewers...as 'news' no less!

FOX is the only station that will give news without twisting it to it's own objective. Actually, the best place to find out what is going on is CBN, (700 Club), but I can't always catch it on TV, and the internet is too troublesome for me.

I now found out, on FOX News of course, that legislation is being passed that will make notification necessary, whenever someone from a charitable institution gives an opinion on what's going on in the Senate or House. Pretty frightening stuff! eek Hey where's the ACLU in this one? confused

As for Ann Coulter, I usually like her opinions. I did find what she said about illegals though quite mean. She said that they should all be kicked out. I would loved to have told her that's 'fine', providing she goes into those households herself and kicks them out...children and all. I dare her! frown

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Dear Zenovia:
I agree with you that CNN and NBC certainly have their biases-which may very well include a bias against President Bush. However, from my vantage point, Fox is no less biased, and in my own personal opinion, is even more biased-just in another direction. Could it be that you don't see Fox as biased because you find yourself agreeing with what you here when you watch Fox?
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How can anyone read through these editorial pieces by Ms. Coulter and not think that she is a mean, petty, self-righteous, sycophant and demagogue?

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/archives.cgi

This one in particular is quite offensive:
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=145

I am no huge fan of Lincoln Chafee either and I can understand why traditionally conservative Republicans would not support him, but she goes beyond what is appropriate for public discourse.

But, anyway folks, if you don't believe me, just keep drinking the FOXNews koolaid. Peace in Christ.

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I just thought I'd add a link to one more article by Ms. Coulter.
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=152

She is clearly vulgar too. She has no class at all.
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Originally Posted by Athanasius The L
Dear Zenovia:
I agree with you that CNN and NBC certainly have their biases-which may very well include a bias against President Bush. However, from my vantage point, Fox is no less biased, and in my own personal opinion, is even more biased-just in another direction. Could it be that you don't see Fox as biased because you find yourself agreeing with what you here when you watch Fox?
Ryan

Ryan,

A fair question. I suppose it depends on the program.

FOX News I would say is pretty fair and balanced in its treatment of topics. Then there are the opinion-meisters. They definitely have a certain political or ideological slant - one that I agree with at times, other times, no.

The difference is that Fox commentators admit they have a political slant, while the newsroom tries to be pretty fair and balanced. CNN, NBC, blah blah blah all claim to be objective, which is a bold faced l-i-e...a non truth.

As for CBN and the 700 Club, I just cannot take Pat Robertson anymore. I think the man thinks he's Smith Wigglesworth, Al Roker (with influence) and Henry Kissinger all rolled up into one affable prophetic TV personality. He means well, no doubt, but he should retire and leave weather, politics and religion to someone who knows what the heck they are talking about.

Not that I have an opinion on the matter.... whistle

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