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This article spells certain doom for the Anglican communion. Let us pray for our brothers and sisters at this momentous time in their history.

Article is here [englishcatholicism.blogspot.com]

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There has already been a bit of discussion on this at Town Hall, for those interested in this subject.

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My apologies. I did not realize this topic was already posted in Town Hall.

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No apologies needed, since it is an interesting article. In Town Hall, I pointed out what I am seeing happen in my own area. Of course, I can't predict what will happen in Tanzania. However, it doesn't look good for ECUSA.

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Father Mike, an Anglican priest, posted this today on another thread about Anglicanism here on Town Hall.

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I praise God that as of this morning, Anglicanism will hold firm and not experience a schism but there may be a primate or two who chooses to go off on his own.

A blessed weekend to all.



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Here is an interesting article which analyzes the current situation in the Anglican Church.

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Episcopalians Must Choose Fellowship or Gay Support
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NEW YORK, Feb. 22 [2007] - Three years of emergency summits, nuanced apologies and behind-the-scenes negotiating failed. Anglican leaders this week gave the U.S. Episcopal Church an ultimatum: Halt your march toward full acceptance of gays, or lose your place in the global Anglican family.

Now, Episcopalians are asking themselves whether the cost of membership has become too high.

"We made our 'yes' to gays and lesbians," wrote the Rev. Ann Fontaine of the Diocese of Wyoming, in an examination of the Anglican demands. "Let it stand."

The global Anglican Communion, represented in the United States by the Episcopal Church, has spent years debating how its 77 million members should interpret Scripture on salvation, truth and sexuality.

But for theological conservatives, the time for talk ended in 2003 when the U.S. denomination consecrated its first openly gay bishop, V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire. To them, the confirmation was beyond the bounds of true Christianity.

Ever since, Episcopalians have had a tough lesson in what it means to be Anglican in the 21st century. The communion was once dominated by its North American and European provinces. But these days, its biggest and fastest-growing churches - by far - are in parts of the developing world where traditional Bible beliefs are not questioned.

As a result, Episcopalians have found themselves on the defensive.

It is no coincidence that Archbishop Peter Akinola, head of the Anglican Church of Nigeria, is leading the charge against consecrating gays. With its 17.5 million members, the Nigerian church is more than seven times bigger than the U.S. denomination.

Episcopalians who share these conservative views of Scripture are in the minority in their own church. But by putting their time, energy and resources behind overseas traditionalists, they have helped move the communion toward the kind of demands they made this week.

Anglican leaders ended their meeting Monday in Tanzania by giving the Episcopal Church until Sept. 30 to pledge unequivocally not to consecrate another gay bishop or approve an official prayer service for blessing same-sex couples. If that promise is not given, the Episcopal Church could face a much reduced role in the Anglican world.

Many Episcopalians say they are being asked to give up what they cherish most about their denomination: its emphasis on social justice in Scripture, which led them to accept gay relationships, and its democratic policy making that gives lay people and clergy a vote in major decisions.

They look at what they have already done to mend the rifts and consider it more than enough.

The church has apologized repeatedly for failing to more fully consult with Anglican leaders before confirming Robinson - although it has not apologized for consecrating him. Episcopal leaders have explained themselves before Anglican panels and in countless private meetings.

If the Anglican family is forcing a choice between rejecting gays or going it alone, the liberal view says, then it may be time to say goodbye.

"If how others view us becomes our consuming concern, our mission will suffer or die," said Bishop Paul Marshall of the Diocese of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, in a letter to his congregations Wednesday.

But the head of the Episcopal Church, Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, returned from the Tanzania meeting saying the denomination should make the very concessions liberals abhor "for a season" until relationships with fellow Anglicans can be healed.

Jefferts Schori personally supports ordaining gays, and she has upset some with her willingness to agree to the Anglican leaders' demands. Yet, she is not alone in wanting to keep the U.S. affiliation with the communion.

Bishop Kirk Smith of the Diocese of Arizona told his parishioners this week that "my heart breaks" at the thought of stepping back from full inclusion of gays and lesbians.

"However, I believe that we are at a moment in our history when we must remain together," Smith said. "I am committed to a fully inclusive church, but I am also committed to remaining part of the larger Anglican Communion." It is a bond that goes back hundreds of years, with roots in the Church of England.

Anglican leaders said Monday that the Episcopalians' pledge would have to hold until "a new consensus emerges" over sexuality.

But that might never happen, considering the intense differences over sexuality.

Whatever the Episcopal House of Bishops decides over the next seven months, the church can easily survive without the communion. The 2.3 million-member U.S. denomination may be relatively small, but it is affluent - and well situated to continue its missions with other Christians overseas.

In fact, the Anglican Communion itself may suffer more from any broken ties. A significant chunk of its budget comes from the U.S. church.


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We were talking with a former Episcopal priest the other day. I say former since he will come into the Roman Catholic Church on Pascha this year. He said that the priests are falling rapidly. That soon there will be no, or very few priests left in the Anglican or Episcopalian Church. They are all going Catholic or Orthodox, but not staying put.

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It would be most interesting to know with whom - and about what - Peter Akinola of Nigeria is conversing these days. Rome? The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria?

I'm confident that Canterbury is not about to break communion with the Episcopal Church in the USA. Is Peter Akinola content to be in "mediate communion" with the Episcopal Church in the USA?

On my home turf, the [Anglican] Church of Ireland finds itself in an odd legal position; its consitution binds it to keep faith with the Church of England. On the other hand, the legal position of the Church of Ireland is a remnant of the days when it was the Established Church here, and that came to an end over a century ago, so I doubt that the Irish Courts would enforce anything on that premise.

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Social justice can be a good thing, properly interpreted. However, maybe I am just a bit burned out on the whole thing. My own experience is that social justice is the last refuge of those who no longer believe in anything else.

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Hi, a very interesting article indeed. My heart goes out to all of the faithful Anglicans, who want to uphold the more traditional interpretation of Holy Scripture. As a conservative Lutheran, this inclusionist theology concerns me, as I see it trickling into my own Lutheran tradition. Why should the African church be forced to adopt a pro-homosexual stance, when homosexuality is frowned upon in so many parts of the continent. This type of American liberal theology is just the type of thing which has encouraged me to adopt a more Eastern-rite Christian spirituality. I pray for the African church leaders and laity whom are holding to their traditions. As far as I understand, God and his laws never change.

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The Episcopal church in the USA is a shipwreck. It will survive but it seems to be destined to lose up to 20 or 25 percent of it's membership, which will represent 30% or more of it's budget.

TEC will probably be escorted out of the Anglican Communion, and that may affect it's ability to win property court cases. The thing about the Episcopalians is they have mastered the art of compromise, so much so that it is hard to tell what they stand for these days.

I am very interested in the fate of the Church of England. It seems to be affected by the same kind of troubles that North America is having. It also seems likely (though not certain) to lose it's leadership position in the communion.

If Canterbury aligns with the Episcopal church and the Canadian church, it could very well lose Africa and suffer a schism in England. It could be reduced from a 77 million communion to something under 20 million.

If Canterbury backs the Global South bishops, it could also suffer a schism in England, and the communion would have a profile like a Brontosaurus: a great big African body with a little English head. In a situation like that it would not require much imagination to foresee the communion choose another Archepiscopal See as it's focal point and leadership center.

It's funny, I am interested in this story as it develops, and repulsed by it at the same time. It's a shame.

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Well my advice is swim the Tiber or the Bosphorus.
Its time to leave the sinking ship if you have any consideration for the safety of your soul.
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Michael:

I do not share your assessment on the Episcopal Church. I think it depends on who has written the story: evangelical right, via media or left of center. It's not over yet and I have faith that the power of the Holy Spirit is in this mix. The number of people in the Episcopal Church who share Akinola's views and those of the breakaway groups in the US is small (I think 80,000 is even too high a number).

As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.



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I pray our Anglican Brothers be reunited with Canonical Orthodoxy!

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Originally Posted by Borislav
I pray our Anglican Brothers be reunited with Canonical Orthodoxy!
A noble sentiment surely.

But not at all likely. Not even remotely likely. The Anglican Communion is dominated by Evangelicals in the global south. The rest are a mixed bag.

Individuals may find their way to Holy Orthodoxy, but the church institution itself is not headed in any such direction. Nor is it getting any closer to Roman Catholicism. It is just not meant to be.

Michael

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