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I recently just saw this movie on HBO. I thought that it was very good. What do you think of it?

I also came across a weekly series on SHO called 'The Tudors'. (Airs the show throughout the week, but shows on Sunday nights at 10p.m. Has anyone seen it? What do you think of it?

Alice

Alice,

Are you talking about the movie about the fall of the Kingdom of Jerusalem?

Yes. I believe it was at the Movie Theatres last year.

I thought the period costumes and CGI were good. The acting was better than most movies. All in all I liked the movie.

I will have to say though I thought that the director portrayed the Christians as barbarians and ridiculed those in ecclesiastical authority. Also, the crew seemed to favor Islam over Christianity... what else is new right?

Hollywood for the most part spews out the most vile putrescence and wonders why no one wants to see it.

Case in point, the new movie Grindhouse.

I recently say the HBO movie Elizabeth I starring Helen Mirren and Jeremy Irons. It, on the other hand was very, very good.

What do you think of the Tudors? I like most of it, like HBO's Rome, but I feel there's too much emphasis put on sex. Nice costumes, though. And you gotta feel for Thomas More.

The most interesting character in Kingdom of Heaven for me was Salah Ad Din, who was born a Kurd in Tikrit, Iraq. He was not an Arab.

I saw the third episode of 'The Tudors' last night, and think that its production is brilliant. Its accuracy of the period is awesome, and it makes one truly feel and experience what life was like living in a royal court of the time. I also like that they spend alot of time (rather than the usual one minute) with the aesthetics of the period: they showed a court play put on for the King in its virtual entirety, they show dancing in its entirety, etc.

The plot is thickening too. Last night, King Henry dictated a letter to the saintly (Saint) Sir Thomas Moore defending the Pope and condemning Luther's heresies against him!!!

Alice

Isn't the proper language not, "The Kingdom of Heaven" rather, "The reign of the mystical afterlife dimension?"

Huh?!?

Have you been eating too many pyrohys this past Bright Week?!?

Alice

Perhaps, just perhaps.....

While this movie was certainly entertaining. Especially the new 3 hour + version which makes the movie so much better, I do have to say that it is incredibly bias. It portrait's Christianity as evil and Islam as good and I resent that. While the Crusades aren't something that I am found of ( Especially as an Eastern Orthodox Christian ), I do have to say that if Muslims weren't bent on occupying, dominating and forcibly converting people to their absolutely VILE death cult of a religion there would have been no Crusade.

Dear Borislav,

Hmmm... I viewed the movie having heard about this bias in advance. I don't think that they showed the Crusaders, in general, in a particularly good light, though the main character was shown to be an *exemplary* Christian of utmost integrity.

I agree with you about the cult of Islam. I deplore their official cultic philosophy.

However, regarding the movie's positive light of the particular Islamic leader, Salah Ah Din, I suppose we should also be careful not to generalize the entire history of Islamic peoples as evil.

History if full of despicable violence, war and invasions instigated by members of all faiths, unfortunately.

In the Risen Christ,
Alice

I agree with you Alice. Not all Muslims are evil, but their religious Cult is.

Every one should see the full version however.

The theatrical version cut out MAJOR parts of the plot. It is like watching a completely different film.

http://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Heave...&s=dvd&qid=1176781060&sr=8-1

From what I hear, Saladin was a pious Muslim, gracious in victory and defeat. He was admired by his enemies and the Europeans for hundreds of years after everyone forgot of Raynald De Chatillion.

I already knew Saladin when I watched the movie, I had to look up King Baldwin as I didn't know much about him.