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My Orthodox brothers,

My opinion is mine, however, when certain Bishops of great stature say 'do not prosletyse' to other Christians, I believe that they are saying the same thing which I did. When certain Bishops of great stature say that fundamentalism in Orthodoxy or any other faith is 'spiritual immaturity', I think that they are saying the same thing that I am. So, if priests don't agree, so be it, but I have heard it from Bishops!

I am not here to prosletyze. I am here to foster Christian ecumenical love. Sorry to disappoint.

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
Dear Mary,

You are just so incredibly wonderful, you know!

I think the Administrator holds a grudging admiration and esteem for you (and for me, as I like to think!) smile

Alex

In all sobriety...well...some sobriety, I have learned that John is NOT grudgible!!

Did I spell that right?

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Originally Posted by Alice
My Orthodox brothers,

My opinion is mine...

I am not here to prosletyze. I am here to foster Christian ecumenical love. Sorry to disappoint.

Alice

You only disappointed me when you said that people who think it is important to be Orthodox, or important to be Catholic are self-loving triumphalists.

I am a faithful daughter of the Church and would hope that others would not read triumphalism into that statement or self-love, or vain glory or any other like anti-virtue.

After all...I learned it from Teresa of Avila smile

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I read the thread over again.

I defended the Matushka from the ROCOR parish, saying that she could not in good heart not say the things that she did.

In response I was indirectly called an Orthodox schismatic.

Than Admin came on, told me that I am spewing vinegar and told me yet AGAIN to find another place to post. In addition making a condescending comment that "I just don't get it"

THERE IS NO DOUBLE STANDARD HERE.

What double standard?




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THERE IS NO DOUBLE STANDARD HERE

You must remember that this is the Administrator's forum. He pays the bills and owns the site. Its his way or the highway.

I doubt any Church (Catholic or Orthodox) would support a forum such as this. Therefore, if you want to participate in such activities it will be on a private Un-Official site such as this one. Thus, subject to the rules and regulations of the owner.

No where is "freedom" of speech guaranteed on these types of forums.

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Originally Posted by Subdeacon Borislav
I read the thread over again.

I defended the Matushka from the ROCOR parish, saying that she could not in good heart not say the things that she did.

In response I was indirectly called an Orthodox schismatic.

Than Admin came on, told me that I am spewing vinegar and told me yet AGAIN to find another place to post. In addition making a condescending comment that "I just don't get it"

THERE IS NO DOUBLE STANDARD HERE.

What double standard?

Dear Borislav,

John is right if by saying that you don't get it, he means that you do not see what you do to other people's words, all the while blaming them, faulting them for your misreading.

That does happen here and it seems to make you doubly angry to have it pointed out to you.

You've done it to me in this post.

I did not directly or indirectly call you a schismatic.

I said that I would not "convert" to Orthodoxy for several reasons and one of them is that I will not now willingly participate in a de facto schism.

If I wanted to call you or any Orthodox person a schismatic, I have sufficient command of English to do so clearly and without doubt.

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Dear Friends,

Hopefully, that dear Matushka's ears aren't burning right now . . .

Let's all calm down and perhaps go to less controversial threads, like those in the Liturgical Section perhaps . . .

Alex


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Mary, I have noticed one thing with you. You are NEVER wrong. Kind of reminds me of my wife.

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I probably would have bitten a hole in my tounge trying not to let loose and tell her what time it was. I say you did the right thing, bro. the LORD has really blessed you with the grace to control your words. I hope that despite the fact that you were treated pretty much like a pagan that you were able to get soemthing out of the Liturgy.
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Borislav,

You need to start reading people�s posts before replying.

I prefaced my response with the quote of yours that was lacking charity:


Originally Posted by Subdeacon Borislav
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because I refuse to participate in schism when I do not believe it to be right and true.

I also refuse to participate in schism when I do not believe it be right and true, thus I am Orthodox. I find your implication that it is our schism to be offensive.
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Sometimes I feel like I am posting on the wrong forum.

And speaking of being removed. I have been threatened with a ban more than once for the views I have expressed here.
My prefacing my comments to you with the specific quote that I considered to be vinegar should have been clear. I do not see how you can conclude that I was chiding you for a comment other then the one I quoted. Nothing � absolutely nothing � in what I wrote chided you for supporting the Matushka.

As an Orthodox Christian you can certainly and legitimately hold that other Churches are in schism from Orthodoxy and you can state that here.

As an Orthodox Christian you are also bound by the law of charity.

If you expect others not to be offended by your belief that all other Churches are in schism from Orthodoxy then you should not spout vinegar by saying you are offended that they believe Orthodoxy is in schism from their Church.

Charitable people can agree to disagree without being offended that someone disagrees with either them or the tenants of the Church they belong to.

If you are not capable of posting with charity then I must ask you not to post on this Forum again. [You seem to desire to spout vinegar even after being asked several times to speak with honey instead.]

At this point I do ask you not to post anywhere on this Forum until you have spoken to Father Anthony. Since you obviously do not respect my call for you speak with charity then maybe you will respect his.

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