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The only person that I've ever heard this nonsense from was Luther, who wrote that the Gospel according to St. John was the purest truth of the Scriptures.

Both Churches freely proclaim the Assumption of the Holy Theotokos. The Western Church emphasizes her Assumption like Enoch and Elias before her. The Eastern Church emphasizes her peaceful death.

My, you have changed in your tone from earlier.

I have followed the arguments for and against the new Byzantine mass and it seems that this respect hasn't been given. O nthe other hand, words have been changed (Theotokos) as part of a mandate, but others (Christians of the True Faith) have been allowed to survive. It seesm that many on these forums have no problem being called *Orthodox* and have demonstrated over the years that it is the proper term. If *Theotokos* has been re-accepted into the corpus of worhsip terminology, why not *Orthdox*? My point or observation (not all comments are questions) still holds true from my first post. True Catholics cannot be Orthodox and this is the reason for choosing terminology. It is a matter of being accepted, not teaching one's own theology. Others have brought up the point about *Uniatism* and I wonder if this phenomenon is more a matter of uniatism rather than Catholicism.

Ed Hashinsky

I read the texts and the Apostles only found an empty tomb after three days. That is all. no more
Ed

Was she stolen or eaten by dogs? Are you a follower of Crossan?

at a Catholic campus, I was told that the Synoptic Gospels were the more correct Gospels! This was because they believe that the Last Supper was a Passover Meal, hence the reason why THEY and not the Eastern Christians, were correct in using unleavened bread for their communion. John was in the minority. Thta the Byzzantines use his Gospel beginning on Easter only proves their point that they are of the minoroty teaching.
Ed

Exodus 20:12

John 19:27

Crossan is stupid. Ever read Lee Strobel? someof his interviews are with Catholics and they are very good.

I don't know if Mary was stolen or eaten by dogs. YOUR church hymns only have her missing. Clue me in on whether there is more to the story.

Ed

Spell checker.

Paula White calls for everyone to follow Yom Kippur, and I can turn on the TV at breakfast and watch a guy hand out healing hankies and water. This doesn't mean that all Protestants see this as what the Gospel calls for.

Do these people share your views?

My reply was in regards to discussions and teachings between Catholics. Some of the most horrendous arguments in religion class were between Eastern Catholics and Western Christians. Eastern Catholics supported Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, whereas Roman Catholics liked the Cappadocians and Saint Chrysostom! I found it amazing that a Lutheran was defending Chrysostom and Photius, whereas the Eastern Catholics were calling John Chrysostom a lesser doctor ofthe Catholic chruch and Photius a heretic because he defied Rome. I was really confused.
Ed

Ed,

You imply that you attended a Catholic college, and attended religion classes (or theology classes?), but the doctrines you mention don't sound very Catholic to me. Dr. Eric even wondered if you might be following John Dominic Crossan (a heretic if there ever was one). What were the "big name" Catholic theologians that you heard about; not the Fathers, just more recent theologians.

Michael

Since we fight over the relics of St. Nicholas, the Icon of Kazan, etc... if there were any relics of her in existence do you not think that we'd still be fighting over them? From the beginning, we have treasured holy relics. Hers would be the most treasured of them all!

2 Kings 2:13-14
2 Kings 13:20-21
Acts 19:11-12


The rest of the story is found at the end of the 11th Chapter and the beginning of the 12th Chapter of the Apocalypse according to St. John.

I know we're not supposed to engage in apologetics here, may I be forgiven for defending Our Blessed Mother.

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My kids are up so I have to sign out.

Alex. Why do the Catholics put the United States under the patronage of the Immaculate Conception and not under the Annunciation? both are days remembering the conceptions. HOwever, Mary's conception, not Jesus Lord, is the more important one. Even huge cathedral-like shrines are built to honor hers. Jesus doesn't seem to be very important, not even his conception. am I mistaken?
Ed

YES.

Dominic Crossan IS a heretic; along with his other disgruntled minions.

I am familiar with Boadt, Brown, Schillebeeckx, Pelikan (actually Orthodox), Blenkinsopp, Meier, Greeley, Pennington, John Paul II, Rahner.

The late John Paul II's teaching on the theology of the body seems to have found disfavor amongst egalitarians who refuse to see differences between men and women. I think he was a prophet.

Ed