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Why it's the female deacon who just doesn't yet have official recognition by way of ordination!!!!

You should have been with me in the diocese of Rochester about a month ago. A woman came out dressed in an alb with a hand mike to "warm up" the audience: walked up and down the aisles looking for people who weren't regulars to "welccome" them to the Liturgy. She did everything that a deacon does EXCEPT read the Gospel--I kid you not: she lead the penance rite, for example. I was in such shock that I didn't know whether to sit still, walk out, or crawl under the pew. The number of liturgical abuses reached so high before the Gospel that I stopped counting. The sermon was strictly an encouragement of liberal, dissident ideas and practices. But I was later told that I was in the diocese of Rochester, NY, which is well known in the East for this kind of stuff.

Maybe there is a need for the general interdict for some of these regions: forbid the liturgy and the sacraments until such time that some kind of re-evangelization can take place.

Certainly there is a need to remove bishops and find men to fill the posts who are solidly orthodox, concerned with personal holiness and who practice it, and who will not tolerate any such aberrations in their jurisdiction. And they wonder why so many young people think this whole thing called the Church is nothing to be taken seriously.

In Christ,

BOB

One would think the inappropriate attire would have been reason enough to withhold Communion. I am only 35 but I can remember as an altar boy, priests refusing communion to people who wore shorts to Mass, and I don't mean cut-offs or short skin tights I mean regular down to the knee shorts.

Well, this is something we experienced at Marquette University. It was a common ocurrance at campus wide Masses for the 40+ Jesuits to take their seats during communion time while unvested laity (mostly women) distributed communion and took care of the altar, including consuming the remaining communion, cleaning the vessels, and so forth. I have been at Masses where women extraordinary eucharistic ministers were vested in white robes and all stood around the priest saying the words of institution and consecrating the hosts with him. It seems like campus ministries are the worst places for this kind of abuse.

Joe

Maybe the poor archbishop has a severe eye problem. Maybe he just can't recognize funny looking clothing. Maybe he's so tolerant that he can't make decisions or make distinctions of any kind. Maybe he can't distinguish white face makeup from what a woman ordinarily wears out in public. Maybe all the nuns he's ever seen have looked like this.

Maybe he's spent so many years in these communities that he doesn't know anymore what people should look and act like when they come to Liturgy. Maybe he doesn't know what behavior is acceptable in church and what is not.

Maybe . . .

BOB

Do you think that perhaps Pope Benedict is just waiting for these folks to die off? I do notice that this sort of thing tends to be popular among the folks aged 60+. In fact, I've heard them complain about how their kids are too conservative and too pious. Perhaps in another generation or two, this sort of thing will be past history.

Joe

I do hope something is done soon. Many of these have grown into serious abuses that affect the validity of the Sacrament itself.

Rhetorically, I ask: why are these people trying to hijack the Catholic Church with their very non-Catholic views? Why not just join a Church (like the United Church of Christ) which recognizes . . . this sort of thing.

I am so tired of this sort of thing.

-- John

Michael, thank you for posting those photos and giving me a good reminder of why I joined the Eastern Church.

-- John

This "bishop" needs to be defrocked, the Church needs to be leveled and the ground spread with salt, and a thorough house cleaning needs to be performed. Better to have no bishop or priests than bishops and priests deluded by the Evil One.

Alexandr

Lord have mercy!

Perhaps the Bishop is scared of these obviously immature and sick men?

In such an environment as San Francisco, and in a politically correct climate such as we have in the U.S. today, where even Christians will deride another Christian for being disgusted at such antics, the Bishop may have not had the backbone to deny them at that moment.

Who knows?

In any case, Kyrie Eleison!

Alice

What do you make of a shepherd who is afraid to lay down his life for his flock? Time for a new shepherd! All the martyred hierarchs of history cry out against this travesty!

Alexandr

Because they are basically pathologically immature children at heart, who are rebelling against the authority of the parent; in this case, the parent is the moral codes of the Roman Catholic Church.

It is all so sick and perverted.

Kyrie Eleison!

This bishop was the pick of the most powerful American Cardinal in the Curia!

Truly a travesty, I agree. The Bishop WAS wrong. He should have the authority and support of Rome and his fellow Bishops to take proper action immediately when necessary...and if not, you are correct--so many have suffered martyrdom to protect the Church, he should have been brave in protecting the Sacred Eucharist from this abomination to it.

To think that the holy St. John Maximovitch (I am reading a book about personal testimonies to his holiness right now) lies in a perfectly incorrupt state in that immoral city.

Lord have mercy on us all!

Because it is the Church of Christ.

Satan doesn't need to mock the others.