www.byzcath.org Forums General Discussions Town Hall Sam Brownback to quit presidential race

Sorry about the previous post. Brownback was fearless on the issue of life, pretty terrible on immigration and other issues.

The only other candidate I can see dropping out soon is Duncan Hunter (my sentimental favorite). McCain will probably go soon, as soon as the money dwindles. Tancredo is running a single-issue candidacy, and Huckabee is arguably really running for VP. He'll probably be in until the NH primaries, unless he falters badly in Iowa. So it's down to the three "frontrunners" Joe listed. (Sigh.)

Actually, Bill Clinton was the best-known candidate in 1992 and received glowing media coverage throughout.

I'd be surprised if Ron Paul didn't get offered a run for president on some third party ticket.

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Ok, I must have gotten my facts mixed up, I was only 11 at that time. I apologize, though I thought Clinton was referred to as the "comeback kid" or something like that. I guess that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have name recognition though.

I wouldn't be suprised if RP ran third party either. He draws a lot of independents and democrats, so he might be convinced.

No problem, Nathan. Clinton was called "The Comeback Kid" (actually, called himself the comeback kid), because he was the frontrunner before the world heard about a woman named Gennifer Flowers. When he came in a respectable second in the '92 NH primaries (to the late Paul Tsongas, who was Greek Orthodox), it was the first time he proved that he could get away with paying no price for his personal immorality. We know where that story ended.

If RP runs third party, it will be a rude awakening for him. He's getting a lot of Democratic support, because he's giving Republicans trouble in their debates; in the general election, they'll all support Hillary. There's no way they're going to vote for a man who wants to abolish Social Security.

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I'd never bet on him winning third party. It's never been done, and I don't think he'd be the first (wait, now that I think about it, wasn't Teddy Rosevelt third party (Bull Moose))? However, he'd be the only anti-war candidate if Hillary wins, and that is the main issue for a lot of people today.

As far as social security goes, he doesn't want to abolish it during his term, because he realizes that a lot of people have become dependent on it. He would implement a gradual withdraw from it. I'm pretty sure 90% of people below 30 would be happy with this approach to get out of this ponzi scheme gradually.

Anyways, if one is a liberal and believe that the government should be more involved in peoples lives, you are NOT going to vote for RP. I agree with you there.

TR split the Republican Party allowing the election of Woodrow Wilson.

In the 1800s, there were a number of "third party" candidates. Even one former president ran third party, with the Anti-Masonic Party. From the remnants of one of the two "major" parties, the Whigs, the Republican Party became the only "third party" to win the presidency on its second try (1860).

TR split the party, electing a Democrat.
Perot split anti-Clinton voters in '92.
Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the 2000 election.

Generally, running third party is the best way to elect the candidate you least agree with.

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Not the case with Jesse "the mind" ventura!

Ahhh, to be a Minnesotan.

As a Kansan...I am SO GLAD that he's dropping out of the race. I NEVER liked that man!

SPDundas
Deaf Byzantine

Too true !

-- John

By the way, is anyone considering Mike Huckabee seriously? He seems like a serious conservative.

-- John