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What do y'all think of the possibility that we will go to war with Iran very soon? Do you think that this is likely? If it happens, will we need to institute the draft? What would be the likely outcome of such a war?

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I don't think we will invade, I think we'll just bomb the nuke facilites. Why we would do the bombing and not Israel is beyond me, since they're the ones in most danger of a nuclear Iran. In fact they threatened to bomb Iran about a year ago if they didn't stop developing nuclear technology, but the deadline passed and nothing happened.

If we do bomb, not much Iran can do in return since they don't have the capabilities to launch and invasion of the US. I supposed they might fight us in Iraq in response however.

Brings up another question, if things do get out of control and a draft in instituted, would you fight if called. I believe I would, but would object to the war none the less.


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I think that the possibly that we will react to the situation as it comes is high, but whether that means a war is too early to tell. It's possible that it could escalate into a war, especially if Iran's rhetoric shifts to physical antagonization against Israel.

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I think if we actually invaded Iran and instituted a draft (which I'm pretty sure we would have to), I think the civil unrest in the US would be greater then the time of Vietnam.

I don't think the administration could get the support to attack Iran unless there was an incident involving terrorists from, or masterminded by terrorists in Iran.

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Originally Posted by Nathan
I don't think we will invade, I think we'll just bomb the nuke facilites. Why we would do the bombing and not Israel is beyond me, since they're the ones in most danger of a nuclear Iran. In fact they threatened to bomb Iran about a year ago if they didn't stop developing nuclear technology, but the deadline passed and nothing happened.

If we do bomb, not much Iran can do in return since they don't have the capabilities to launch and invasion of the US. I supposed they might fight us in Iraq in response however.

Brings up another question, if things do get out of control and a draft in instituted, would you fight if called. I believe I would, but would object to the war none the less.

I am too old to serve and on medication, so I don' have to worry about it. I would gladly pick up a rifle and defend my homeland, meaning where I am living, but I would not be willing to go overseas and fight a war that has its ultimate root cause in American greed and exploitation of the middle east.

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I would be a viable target for a drafting. I would not dodge a draft, even if I don't like how the war started.

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We must do what we think is right.

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I'd have to lose weight or it'd be army fat camp for me!

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I love military science, I think there won't be a war because simply there is not enough money. If anything happens it will be a short air war where nuclear installations are destroyed, that'll be it. But if that happens Iranian support of the Iraqi insurgensts will multiply, the Iranians themselves would most likely send in their own people to help the terrorists in Iraq and perhaps try to do terrorists attacks in the United States.

As for the draft I would not mind, I'm actually going to join ROTC when I head back to college this winter.

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I have a college degree, so I wonder if I was drafted if there would be any opportunity to become an officer?

Edit: After researching my question the answer would be no...if you're drafted, you start at the bottom.

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It depends; a draft would not mean that everybody brought in will be put on active combat duty. They would need logistic support, medical support, and paper pushers as well.

A friend of mine is in the Army and has a Master's in psychology, it's still tough for him to advance the ranks.

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Money has not been a historical inhibitor for wars America has fought. Our national debt will take a hit. Though we would have been much wiser if we fought the war of 1812 in 1807 when there was heated public support.

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Personally I think there will be a bombing of the nuke facilities, but no invasion. I think it will probably be a coordinated US/Israeli attack.

That said, I think Iran probably already has a nuke and is waiting for the right opportunity to do a high altitude EMP launch, which would have devastating effects on the world economy, access to all sorts of key services (electrical, H2O, etc etc). Several years back, Iran launched a missle in the air and it exploded at just the precise altitude that would be required for a cataclysmic EMP. The world treated it as a failure, but Iran celebrated it as a success.

A little scary...

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Well, lately the federal reserve has just been printing more money to fund the current global conflicts.

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Originally Posted by Nathan
I have a college degree, so I wonder if I was drafted if there would be any opportunity to become an officer?

Depends, during World War 2 you would have been because the of the utter increase of military personal in such a short time they needed officers. Right now because there is no world war going on would be enlisted but get out of boot camp with a higher grade and pay than everyone else, like E3 (Private 1st Class if your in the Army) while everyone else would be E1 (private). After boot camp with your college degree you would then, after a little while, be eligible to go to Officer Canidate School to become an officer, the course for the army is about 14 weeks long.

If you are drafted/enlisted and are a nurse/doctor/dentist or are clergy (and maybe if you have a legal degree and assigned to JAG corps) you get a direct appointment as an officer once you complete the training (about 9 weeks I think).

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I've been posting alot on other forums about the inevitability of a war with Iran before the end of this year, and I check alot of foreign based websites in attempts to confirm information. The Israeli intelligence site Debkafile, claimed that Syria was on an almost full state of alert since Oct 9, and that Israel is now on it's highest state of alert since the Six Day War in 1967. A French investigative journal called Le Canard Enchaine ran an article about 3 weeks ago that claimed they had obtained evidence from the Russian and Saudi embassies in Tehran that the US and Israel were planning to bomb Iran's nuclear sites on Oct 15. If that information was actually correct, it's interesting that two events may have possibly put a temporary halt to their plans. First, Turkey's threatening to invade Northern Iraq, and second Vladimir Putin showing some back bone and increasingly standing up to the US. His "NO foreign bases in the Caspian region" was obviously a thinly veiled warning to America, and I commend him for it.

Still, I believe there is a clear and present danger of a war breaking out in the near future.

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