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I have to modify what I said earlier. I would be willing to go if I were drafted, but only in a non-combatant role (medic or chaplain).

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Originally Posted by Terry Bohannon
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Money has not been a historical inhibitor for wars America has fought. Our national debt will take a hit. Though we would have been much wiser if we fought the war of 1812 in 1807 when there was heated public support.

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Well I can gaurantee that before the war starts the issue of money will be brought up many many times. The military can't afford it - congress would have to triple the emergency funding bills they pass what seems to be every three months and with the democrats in power and a growing anti-war setiment among the republicans that could be difficult to do.

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Zan,

It would be natural for the military to appropriate to itself the natural resources and manpower it needs to fund a world war.

To fund WWII there was no way that resources could have been channeled to the military with the pre-WWII economic network. The cost to the American economy was shutting down certain non-military manufacturing plants and devoting major foundries to war-related business--as well as building new shipyards and dredging new harbors.

The military formed a kind of "marital law" in regards to certain needful resources, they got the job done. And we would do it again if the situation demands such action.

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I would prefer non-combat duty.

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Originally Posted by Terry Bohannon
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It would be natural for the military to appropriate to itself the natural resources and manpower it needs to fund a world war.

To fund WWII there was no way that resources could have been channeled to the military with the pre-WWII economic network. The cost to the American economy was shutting down certain non-military manufacturing plants and devoting major foundries to war-related business--as well as building new shipyards and dredging new harbors.

The military formed a kind of "marital law" in regards to certain needful resources, they got the job done. And we would do it again if the situation demands such action.

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Well for a world war yeah. But an Iranian War, won't be a world war. During World War II the United States faught against two super powers Japan and Germany, Iran is a third world country with laughable military. However, launching a massive high tech air campaign using multiple strike platforms and extremely complex logistics causes a very high bill, a bill that the miliary will have to pettition congress to help pay for, and the Bush Adminstration knows it. Not to mention the large increase of money that will have to go to Iraq to help fight against a bunch of Iranian insurgents which I'm sure Iran will send over once the bombs start falling.

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It would only be under the conditions of "world war" that I could forsee a draft.

It is possible that a war with Iran will cascade into a larger conflict.

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I think that it will be very bad if it comes to war.

I hope and pray that it doesn't happen.

It is one that I think the US would wait out though. We will not face another Iraq for the world to laugh at us. We would wait until the European powers and others moved to do something as well.

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Originally Posted by Robert K
I think that it will be very bad if it comes to war.

I hope and pray that it doesn't happen.

It is one that I think the US would wait out though. We will not face another Iraq for the world to laugh at us. We would wait until the European powers and others moved to do something as well.

Oh I think the world would do much more than laugh at us. I could see several nations declaring war with us and the U.N. taking us off the security council and voting for a resolution to take U.N. military action against the United States. I think that Mr. Putin has made it clear that he is willing to engage in armed conflict with us should he think it necessary.

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I don't see Russia taking it too kindly, nor China, nor Syria.

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Originally Posted by Terry Bohannon
I don't see Russia taking it too kindly, nor China, nor Syria.

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I think we in the United States need to really think seriously about our foreign policy decisions. We seem to take for granted the idea that we are "the leaders of the free world" and that no one would ever dare to wage war against us, especially on our own territory. But, I see no reason why China, Russia, Syria, and Iran couldn't join in an alliance against us (add North Korea and Venezuela). And I'm not convinced that our traditional allies would come to our defense. Certainly Israel would side with us and perhaps Britain, but most of continental Europe would either be neutral or would join with Russia I think, at least if they thought that we had provoked war by our military actions. I can also see the U.N. calling for an international military intervention. "Peacekeepers" being sent to the U.S. to shut down our government. To be honest, if this were to happen, to some extent, I think we would deserve it. It is our arrogance that has put us in this position.

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Exactly. We must look at 'is there such a thing as American exceptionalism', as described by Alexis de Tocqueville...and wonder at the tentativeness of our country's hold to power.

A fall from power will happen; it has always happened before. It may happen in five years or five decades, we can't know just yet, but let us not be too surprised when it does.

I personally hope the fall is soft.

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Me too. I don't particularly like the idea of my home town being bombed and pillaged and then being made subject to a foreign government.

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Ojala (spanish for o allah-means hopefully), it never happens, because life as we know it would change drastically, and it would probably lead to a world war. Draft, non-combat, etc. will be the least of our problems.I think China would get involved and we really, really don't want that, because they will not back down, and though they need our trade Middle Eastern oil is more important for survival then selling the US Barbie Dolls and toilet paper.
We may think bombing a few nuclear facilities is a casual, no-cause-for concern affair,but would any of us stand for a foreign country bombing our facilities? I think not, and I seriously doubt Ahminejad would stand for it-there'd be terrorist attacks left and right all over this country, not just DC, LA and NY, but Des Moines, Sacramento and Austin too. It would be a very foolish move and I pray it does not happen.

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Originally Posted by JSMelkiteOrthodoxy
What do y'all think of the possibility that we will go to war with Iran very soon? Do you think that this is likely?
I don't know.


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If it happens, will we need to institute the draft?

Unlikely. Bush would probably limit himself to air strikes. The U.S. doesan't have enough troops to conquer another country and to continue holding the countries it already occupies. Hence . . .


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What would be the likely outcome of such a war?

My little opinion:
--Iran would be severely hurt.
--Russia would be furious but it wouldn't respond unless we put ground troops into Iran (which they would see as a threat to their southern border).
--The rest of the word would hate the U.S. even more.
--Bush might be impeached.
--The Democrats would have a resounding victory in 2008.

My two cents; I might be wrong.

-- John


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