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I am glad to read your comment here Lawrence. The Administration has trampled on the constitution. From what I have seen, Romney and Gulianni have no problem with civil rights and torture. Only Ron Paul is a viable candidate from the Republican side. He is the only true conservative, the only one standing up for the constitution, standing up against this unconstitutional and illegal war.

The only disrespect that is going on currently is for the US Constitution. Ron Paul is the only candidate that has any respect and/or knowledge of the US Constitution, if I were him I'd bring copies of the Constitution for all the other candidates to read at the next debate, they might learn something.

Monomakh

Ron Paul for me too. For those who don't know about him watch this:



Ghouliani is pro-abortion and should not get the Catholic vote.

I honestly don't know who I'm going to vote for, for president in 2008. None of the candidates is close to being a perfect candidate for me. Giuliani has the most practical experience, and I agree with him on certain issues, but I don't like his pro-abortion position nor some of his other views. Hillary Clinton is . . . Hillary; 'nuff said. Besides, I�m tired of two families (the Bushes and the Clintons) amassing the most political power in America. Barack Obama is fresh and original (and ambitious; does anyone else suspect that he is running for Governor of Illinois?), but he is inexperienced. Ron Paul is interesting; so too is Dennis Kucinich; but neither of them will be the next President. Mitt Romney seems like a flip-flopper on social isssues. Mike Huckabee? I need to learn more about him. Etc.

-- John

For some reason, I posted a link to a Hugh Hewitt interview with Ron Paul and it disapparated.

I'll repost in case it was a technical error on my part.

The interview with Ron Paul at the beginning was the interesting part. The rest of the program is not very interesting in terms of analysis.

Hugh Hewitt Interview with Ron Paul [townhall.com]

If it was not a technical error, can one of the moderators explain why it was deleted?

Thanks.

Gordo

Wow, I just listened to that, and to the follow up callers and it looks like we're to stage 2.5 of Ghandi's quote. I'm excited by the fact that the neo-cons are coming out in force against Ron Paul. During the rest of that segment he accused Ron Paul supporters of being anti-semitic (a very dirty way of associating Ron Paul to anti-semitism, even though he has never said anything or done anything anti-semitic).

1.)First they ignore you,
2.)then they ridicule you,
3.)then they fight you,
4.)then you win."

Ron Paul is the perfect answer to how we send a message to the establishment in DC. Sling all the mud you want, but not all of us are going to mindlessly follow what talk radio tells us.

You notice how he calls them Ronpods. I've also heard Ronbots. Are we in 1984? is this doubletalk? Ron Paul supporters found Ron Paul mostly on their own through their own research and not spoonfed from the media, but WE'RE the robots?

Just a warning, if Ron Paul climbs in the polls, only expect more accusastions of racism, anti-semitism, and ridicule for delivering a message of non-interventionism and freedom.

Send a message to DC, send a message to the media, send a message to the world that we the people in fact decide who will be the next president of the United States no matter how much the special interests and media try to change that.

Ok, I'm done preaching.

Preach away.

Just to be clear, my only interest in posting the link was the interview, not the follow-up commentary. I think he went way over the top, especially on the anti-semitic thing.

Too bad he could not stick to the substantive issues covered in his interview. Ron Paul should be critiqued based on the positions he actually holds.

As a Virginian, I'm much more inclined to be a strict constructionist. Unfortuanetly, such people are unelectable. And the nature of the presidency of the alternative, Mrs. Clinton, is unthinkable.

God bless,

Gordo

Lol, no problem. And if it sounded like any of that was aimed at you, it wasn't. I was just yelling at the whole world and more specifically the media, Republican leadership, talk show hosts, special interests, and the whole District of Columiba.

I'm not going to go through life always voting for the person with the best chance. Ron Paul is my Bunker Hill, he's my Alamo, as he'll probably lose, but this is a battle where I'm going to hunker down with the long shot and keep firing back at the media until the end.

(Imagine Glory, Glory, Hallelujah playing in background while reading that).

"Send a message to DC, send a message to the media, send a message to the world that we the people in fact decide who will be the next president of the United States no matter how much the special interests and media try to change that."

If a person with Ron Paul's ambitions became president, how would he meet the policy goals promised in his campaign?

Would he strictly follow them? How much compromise would be acceptable?

Terry

As President, he wouldn't be able to pass legislation, but would be able to introduce it (and veto and sign). On fiscal issues he would have the backing of most of the Republicans, and on foreign policy he would have the backing of most of the Democrats.

What we do know, when it comes to foreign policy is that he won't be pre-emptively stricking foreign countries, and will bring the troops home. As far as bringing bases home from other non combat counties, I don't know if he has the power to do that or not.

Lastly, he'll bring these issues up for debate in the public. Should we be overthrowing foreign governments in the name of freedom. Should we have a Federal Reserve and a currency that is not tied to anything. He will bring all these issues to the forefront to be discussed which is a start.

The US will not all of a sudden be utopia with Ron Paul, but it's a beginning towards a freer and better America.

I've been a Ron Paul fan for several years already, and I like the fact that he's a strict Constitutionalist who believes in a foreign policy of "Friendship with all, entangling alliances with none". And for me he's absolutely the only choice in a race where the other options are the war mongering megalomaniac Bush Republicans, and the socialism, sodomy and slaughtering the innocents of the Democrats.

Here's an interesting update for those fans of Ron Paul.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071115/D8SU2GF00.html


Monomakh

I saw that on Drudge and here are my favorite parts of the article:




It's as if the media needs to keep reassuring itself and the readers that Ron Paul has no shot, so pay no heed to his steady rise in the polls and his rise in donations.

Ron Paul's top three contributers are people from Google, US Army, and US Navy in that order, now check out where the other candidates get their money from:

http://rabbit-hole-journey.blogspot.com/2007/11/campaign-contributors-of-media-anointed.html

(hint...look for any major player on wall street)

Ron Paul still has a ways to go, but it will have to be a true grassroots effort and we'll be fighting the media tooth and nails the whole way.

Ok, I lost my train of thought, better get back to work!

One commentator referred to Paul supporters as "Moon Bats" because their candidate is in favor of abolishing the personal income tax, the immediate withdrawl of troops from Iraq, our leaving the United Nations, abolishing the CIA, and impeaching Dick Cheney. If that makes you a "Moon Bat" then I'm proud to be a "Moon Bat."

I'll be back in Merry Old England where the Labour party is hard at work desotyring everythgin traditional, British, or Christian.

I however am a Devout Monarchist who supports the Unelected House Of Lords (that htey are dismantling) and find electiosn to be rather divisive affairs, built on intriuge and riot, signifyign only popular trends.


I support ominally ROn paul on the basis that he seems th emost logical Candidtae but agree that he shant win.

But I won't vote for him. Or anyoen else. I cna't participate in VOting, as I fond the hwole practice ridiculous.