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Well, the question of whether prostitution should be tolerated by the civil government is not a matter of Dogma, but rather of prudence.
Joe A valid point - but to be clear, Dr. E was right - one opinion... Ah yes the old �Take away the sewer, and you will fill the palace with pollution. Take away prostitutes from the world, and you fill it with sodomy.� Riiiiiiiiiight. Joe, do you believe that to be the case? Do you think that is what this bishop is thinking? Do any of us think that this article presents the facts fully and accurately? Why do I keep scratching my head when I read this thinking "Maybe this isn't the whole story..."? I have seen enough news coverage about religion, the Catholic Church, and politics in general to be pretty skeptical that things are exactly the way this story reads. I would like some more info.
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I consider myself to be too inexperienced and ignorant to be able to make such large political decisions. Honestly, it is not something that bothers me either way. Prostitution is gravely immoral, yet I honestly don't spend much time thinking about it. I do not think that the argument for legalizing prostitution (and majiuana for that matter) is absurd. But I wouldn't call myself an advocate for it either. I think though the point that the author of the article made bears considering, prostitution is treated along the same lines as fornication. There are plenty of cases of fornication that are really prostitution, even if they don't meet the legal definition. Guy takes girl out. Guy buys girl nice things and buys her nice dinner. Girl rewards guy with sex. Couldn't that be considered prostitution? In fact, (and hear me out, I don't agree with this view), Frederick Engels argued that marriage in modern European society was a form of prostitution since the woman was trading conjugal rights for financial and social stability and security. From a certain point of view, I can see his point. One has to wonder how many married couples bargain with one another over sex. So someone might argue that it is unfair to single out those who offer sex explicitly for cash when millions of people are involved in prostitutional-ish relationships in other ways.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I have a naughty thought: do you think that church prostitution, like the pagan temple prostitution of old, could be harnessed to bring funds into the church?
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Joe,
I think there are important differences that your comparison overlooks. Couples bargaining within a marriage are jointly responsible for the results in every dimension whether physical, emotional, spiritual,....They will be responsible as a couple if a child is conceived from their bargaining. Prostitution has no such accountability associated with it -- that's the rub. Taking joint responsibility for actions has a binding force missing from a "business-type" relationship that defines itself within a very limited timeframe, and implies that the money received by the women compensates for WHATEVER the consequences, including STD's (many of which are life-long) that result. It is inherently unjust. Making it "legal" doesn't make it any less unjust because STD's are less likely to be transmitted..... In prostitution, the potential long-term consequences (to BOTH parties really), emotional, physical, health, etc. are completely discounted......and that makes it a totally unjust "transaction" even under the most "protected" of circumstances. I have a hard time seeing any compensating "good" in prostitution. Governments know it is wrong. Otherwise the Japanese wouldn't have been put under such pressure to apologize for the Korean women pressed into being "comfort women" servicing Japanese troops during WWII. I believe both sides of this transaction are deeply in need of counseling. Glory to XC!
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Joe,
I think there are important differences that your comparison overlooks. Couples bargaining within a marriage are jointly responsible for the results in every dimension whether physical, emotional, spiritual,....They will be responsible as a couple if a child is conceived from their bargaining. Prostitution has no such accountability associated with it -- that's the rub. Taking joint responsibility for actions has a binding force missing from a "business-type" relationship that defines itself within a very limited timeframe, and implies that the money received by the women compensates for WHATEVER the consequences, including STD's (many of which are life-long) that result. It is inherently unjust. Making it "legal" doesn't make it any less unjust because STD's are less likely to be transmitted..... In prostitution, the potential long-term consequences (to BOTH parties really), emotional, physical, health, etc. are completely discounted......and that makes it a totally unjust "transaction" even under the most "protected" of circumstances. I have a hard time seeing any compensating "good" in prostitution. Governments know it is wrong. Otherwise the Japanese wouldn't have been put under such pressure to apologize for the Korean women pressed into being "comfort women" servicing Japanese troops during WWII. I believe both sides of this transaction are deeply in need of counseling. Glory to XC! Excellent points. Joe
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