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Alex writes: The problem with all this reconciliation is that it ultimately leads to mutual forgiveness, love and respect.
I don't believe that either the Ukrainians or the Irish are just ready yet to go down that road. Heavens, I had no idea that the Ukrainians and the Irish are angry with each other. And from my vantage point in Dublin, it's probable that I would know if that were happening. Fr. Serge
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Orthodox Pyrohy,
You're definitely right above the term "Indian," which I've always acknowledged is a misnomer, but sometimes I just get tired of saying/typing "Native American" since "Indian" is so much shorter, and everybody knows I'm not talking about people from the Subcontinent!
Maybe if I abbreviate Native American with an "N.A." from now on, that'll work best!
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Heavens, I had no idea that the Ukrainians and the Irish are angry with each other. And from my vantage point in Dublin, it's probable that I would know if that were happening.
Fr. Serge Me neither? Speaking as a Ukrainian-Canadian, I don't know too many Irish, but I like the Irish-Aermicans I have met on this forum. Especially the quick wit.
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Orthodox Pyrohy,
You're definitely right above the term "Indian," which I've always acknowledged is a misnomer, but sometimes I just get tired of saying/typing "Native American" since "Indian" is so much shorter, and everybody knows I'm not talking about people from the Subcontinent!
Maybe if I abbreviate Native American with an "N.A." from now on, that'll work best! How about keeping 'Indian' for those from India, and 'Injun' for those from your neck of the woods? =)
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yeah, if Injun did not have a negative connotation, like calling Black people "coloreds". I guess it could work.
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One could use the term "Amerindian" - or to be utterly correct, one could use the correct tribal identification (Sioux, Apache, Nez Perce - you name it).
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"Sioux" isn't appropriate according to the Dakota, Lakota and Nakota.
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I am no expert on the designations of the pre-Columbian social groups in what is now North America! But isn't "Lakota" the name of Morris West's mythical Pope Cyril?
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In Canada our native people are referred to as "First Nations People"
This terminology is found in Canadian government documents, by the native people themselves, and in common day usage by many Canadians now.
Yes, there are many who persist in using other terms.
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I don't know a thing about Morris West or his mythical Pope Cyril; however, Sitting Bull, Red Cloud and Crazy Horse were all Lakota.
Kolya, in the US people use a variety of terms and I don't know of any consistency in usage; it's possible that government documents are standardized through a number of years, but terminology changes with society so I would guess that terms have changed throughout the life of the nation.
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