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Here is a video by Calvary Chapel [calvarychapel.com] mission in Italy to save the Roman Catholics. Calvary Chapel Missions to Italy [youtube.com]

Italy is an over looked nation to make the Nation born again.

Also, they are sponsoring a conference to correct the Pope on his position of Creationism.

Posted on the video site is: "Adding comments has been disabled for this video."

Lucky thing for me...(tongue in cheek)

Glad

I believe this is there website: Chapel Missions Italy. [calvaryboise.org] and here Calvary Chapel Rome [calvarychapelrome.org]

The way you posted this, it sounds like you agree with them.

Do you?

Why?

No, of course not. I post these things because I find it interesting how Evangelical Protestants don't think Orthodox/Catholics are Christian. A real mission field is with the members of Calvary Chapel and the similiar Churches.

Some of the new Evangelical Churches have really falling far from the tree of Christ. Just last night I was watching an A&E special on Evangelicals. I was amazed at how they believe the USA is ICXC's choosen country. Really strange stuff...

I think a bigger problem in the Catholic Church is that Catholics are often starved for effective leadership. When that is present, you don't see Catholics falling for everything that comes down the road. I hope Pope Benedict lives to be 100 and provides the needed leadership.

Ray:

Not really strange if one remembers the Protestant "manifest destiny" so much a part of earlier United States history. How about the ones who believe that if they grow rich and successful that they are expecially blessed and chosen by God? Does that sound familiar in comparison to Jesus' time?

BOB

"Some of the new Evangelical Churches have really falling far from the tree of Christ."

I think it would be good to look and see what binds them. Most of the time their passion is honest. They are honest in placing the object of their faith in Christ. Where they get into trouble is in the life that comes out of such a faith; they are not guided by the Church, so they guide themselves with their own authorities and cling to what suits them best.

Many in non-denominational fellowships seek to correct for this, so that they say that it is Christ that binds them even if they disagree in other places. However, they have loose ideas about what binds them, so at times it is reduced to being "born again" and joining their study groups. About Catholics there is much they do not understand and, by what they do not understand, they come to a general sense that Catholics are not Christian.

Some would say that Catholics worship idols, that they deify Mary (who was just another woman), and the radicals would say that the Pope is the anti-Christ. I've heard one of them suggest that John Paul II would raise from the dead, overthrow Benedict, and then become the anti-Christ. The ideas thrown about can become rather absurd.

The language used in that video is crafted to Evangelical sentimentalities. As a piece of marketing, it's skillfully produced. It's too bad that their pitch relies on misconceptions and misrepresentations of Catholic teachings.

Terry

Thanks, Ray. That is a relief.
If we lost you, we would be in a world of hurt.

And the Mormons are the fourth largest church group in the country. Their theology, of course, is based on the idea that Jesus is a liar.

That Christ abandoned His Church and allowed it to go astray for 1800 years, only then sending an angel to Joseph Smith in upstate New York.

JOHN:

I've always wondered about the language of the Mormons. The angel is "Moroni." Take off the final "i" and what do you have?

BOB

Should read especially--that's what you get when you're tired and look through the wrong part of the tri-focals.


BOB

Calvary Chapel specializes in going to Catholic countries and making "converts." - big in the Philippines. They also pray for the conversion of Catholics in most of their services.

Their meetings are usually:

1. Sing along with occasional guitar accompaniment.
2. Bible reading for an hour or so.
3. Prayer time.
4. Occasional bread and wine... in dixie cups.

Are they a ministry like Campus Crusade for Christ? That meeting, except for the 4th, is like what I experienced in the CCC groups.

Terry

Campus Crusade for Christ is a parareligion. It is not a denominaton but a missionary group from whom came the Evangelical Orthodox headed by Father Peter Gilquist who became Antiochian Orthodox.

Here is a website by CCC

http://www.ccci.org/ministries/jesus-film/bulgaria-easter-outreach.aspx

Calvery Chapel is a protestant denomination. I think it started out in California in Costa Mesa, where they have a huge church and college campus. That is their central hub.

CC does not talk about it much, but they lost several of their great preachers to the Orthodox Church. One is Father Seraphim Bell.