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I could understand the claim that Ron Paul is not a conservative, but I would like to know on what grounds they excluded him. They must not suspect that he has or will gain much support in the caucus.
Terry Probably on the grounds that the guy's a clown!
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I think they fear Ron Paul may be more popular than the establishment wants. Why else would they wish to exclude him at every opportunity, stifle his message, misrepresent him, and falsify polls? After the last two stolen elections can we expect an accurate count in Iowa? No criticism of OUR DEAR LEADER GEORGE BUSH or THE GLORIOUS REPUBLICAN PARTY implied, of course. Paul was probably excluded because he was taking too much time away from serious candidates. I don't understand how you all can justify supporting a political party that promotes abortion, gay marriages, etc. If you dislike the Republican party so much, perhaps you should refrain from voting all together.
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Ron Paul is a Republican.
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I said no criticism of George Bush or the Republican party implied.
But in any case, I vote early, I vote often, and I ALWAYS vote in the Republican primary.
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Probably on the grounds that the guy's a clown! Hmmm...care to expand on how this military vet and doctor who has delievered over 4000 babies is a clown?
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Paul was probably excluded because he was taking too much time away from serious candidates.
I don't understand how you all can justify supporting a political party that promotes abortion, gay marriages, etc. If you dislike the Republican party so much, perhaps you should refrain from voting all together. 1.) Please describe what defines a serious candidate in your mind? Ron Paul received 10% in Iowa, and has reportedly raised more money this quarter then any other GOP candidate. 2.) I'm very confused on what you're talking about in your next paragraph. What party promotes abortion and gay marriage? Ron Paul is one of the most pro-life candidates running if you're inferring that he's pro-choice. I'm very confused, maybe you can clarify these points for me.
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I think the only people advocating gay marriage are divorce lawyers. Getting a whole new group of people in on the fun can only be good for them.
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Unfortunately Dwight, your wrong, and numerous people support Same-Sex marriage because of political gains, they want to be seen as Progressive, or else they bought the Rhetoric of how "Unjust it is that gays can't get married"...
It is especially true of the last reason I mentioned amongst numerous young, who do not see the dangers in Same-Sex marriage and have not been able to see the full ramification on society.
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That said, the Republian and Democrats are both rather disreputable, and I am only margionally in support pf he Republican party...
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Funny how its not much of an issue till the Republicans need a boost in the polls. It keeps their base agitated so they dont notice the increasing debt and crumbling infrastructure or that their kids are unable to read after 12 years of public school.
The only people benefiting from the issue are Republicans.
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All that said I support Ron Paul because I think he is a good man and we havent had one of those in politics since Jimmy Carter.
I never in my wildest imaginings would have thought I would ever vote for any Republican for any office under any circumstances or that a decent man would run on that ticket.
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Carter? I hope our next President has a different approach to management.
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I said "good man." Job was a just man and things didnt always fall out exactly as he wished, either.
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Job was a just man, Carter is not Job. I don't wish to debate history or his Presidency.
What concerns me about Ron Paul is that he's not a conservative. The reforms he speaks of would require far more change than a President can enact. If he is opposed by both parties then his presidency might be even less effective than Carter's unless he's willing to make substantial compromises.
I do not desire to judge his character. But it's hard to avoid a reference to it with someone that speaks of grand schemes without a political environment which would give credence to his claims.
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