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I don't think Spanish need be a national language, just one of prudence... long term, more Americans knowing another language or two or three just cannot be seen as a negative.

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Originally Posted by Michael_Thoma
I don't think Spanish need be a national language, just one of prudence... long term, more Americans knowing another language or two or three just cannot be seen as a negative.

On that point, you and I are in agreement. Americans (and I include myself in this...apart from some spotty German) by and large do not know languages. Knowing Spanish would be tremendously helpful, especially for those involved in pastoral work.

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Originally Posted by Michael_Thoma
I don't think Spanish need be a national language, just one of prudence... long term, more Americans knowing another language or two or three just cannot be seen as a negative.

Americans knowing another language isn't bad. I don't think that's what McCain's amnesty bill said, he wanted to allow the gatecrashers to become citizens.

My sons are learning Ukrainian (my 5 year old speaks it quite well), but I don't think that you should have to press 1 for English and 2 for Ukrainian whenever you call somewhere. I also think that any Ukrainian who is here illegally should be deported back to Ukraine and get in line like my ancestors did because the rule of law should be followed.

McCain for some reason or another doesn't want the rules to be followed?!

McCain also likes to prohibit free speech like he did with his 'Campaign Finance Reform' Bill.

McCain also believes in the global warming farce.

McCain also believes that an independent Kosovo that allows radical Islam to have a foothold in Europe is a good idea.


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Dual immersion programs would be good, from a young age.

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Americans knowing another language isn't bad. I don't think that's what McCain's amnesty bill said, he wanted to allow the gatecrashers to become citizens.
One could word it that way, but one could also see it as allowing some who are here illegally to become legal, once they pass a series of steps in various stages.

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My sons are learning Ukrainian (my 5 year old speaks it quite well), but I don't think that you should have to press 1 for English and 2 for Ukrainian whenever you call somewhere.
That is up to businesses to decide. If private business wishes to spend their money on their various languages for their customers that is up to them. As to governments doing so, I can see how that would get a politician in office in a few cities across the nation. While it wouldn't do much in Kansas City, it would help a local politician win election in NY, Chicago, or L.A., and isn't that what much of these "incentives" are about?


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I also think that any Ukrainian who is here illegally should be deported back to Ukraine and get in line like my ancestors did because the rule of law should be followed.
The problem is that there is no rule of law. I understand that while you and I may wish there were a blanket policy, the US government has been quite schizophrenic in its immigration enforcement. Why aren't the Cubans told to wait in the same line? I think it has to do with the same reason as those "incentives" mentioned above.

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McCain for some reason or another doesn't want the rules to be followed?!
That's because in practice, neither Republican or Democrat have enforced those rules. Neither side wants to lose their a percentage of their voting block to enforce the law.

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McCain also likes to prohibit free speech like he did with his 'Campaign Finance Reform' Bill.
Prohibit, Or restrict? There are already restrictions on certain types of political speech, I wouldn't call every restriction a "prohibition".

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If Huck drops out, Romney will be tough to beat.

It is amazing that out of the remaining candidates:

Two are very moderate Republicas.
One is neo-conservative now, but used to be a liberal Republican.
The one that no one is paying attention to is a paleo-conservative.

Image is everything. McCain looks and acts like a leader. The populace doesn't care if he had some very liberal bills that he wrote or voted for.

thank you, Nathan!as my former choice Rudy has gone over to John, I'll be voting for him, or at least his slate of delegates. (if I vote for Rudy, it may dilute the McCain vote). McCain was a protege of Barry Goldwater, one of my boyhood heros. I voted for McCain in 2000 after the right wing fundie nut jobs smeared McCain with a disgusting rumor, and I'd have problem with doing it again.
Much Love,
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McCain was a protege of Barry Goldwater??!!

Some of his positions seem to be against a lot of what Goldwater stood for. Campaign Finance Laws, voting against the tax cut, in Iraq for maybe 100 years to name a few off of the top of my head.

that may seem to be that way. remember that Goldwater was a maverick, as is McCain. in 1957, Goldwater voted for the Civil Rights bill, the same one that the "liberal" Lyndon B. Johnson voted against (the same Johnson that Hillary sang paeons of praise, and which helped screw things up for her amongst African Americans) McCain, like Goldwater, never subscribed to any "Nicene Creed" as to what makes a conservative. I'm glad I voted for him. I'm only sorry that Huckabee won Tennessee.
Much Love,
Jonn

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