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Slightly off topic - BUT - bearing in mind CofS's comments about names - well I now see we have a new member with the name of Alex !! - and what will oour own Orthodox Catholic do now when he signs his posts - will he use the Ukie version of his name ?

Watch this space to find out.

Anhelyna [ who has decided to use that permanently since an Angelica signed on - and I don't want to confuse people ]

Dear CofS,

You're welcome. :p

Mor Ephrem - still the same since December 2000 (I think that's when I first joined anyway). :p

Mor Ephrem - still the same since December 2000 (I think that's when I first joined anyway). :p


Oh yeah - and who was given a most exalted title by one of the illustrious members ?

Dear C of S,

Sorry for any confusion that my renaming of East-ward-looking Latins causes!

One doesn't need a Slavic-sounding name to be into the Eastern Church, but I haven't heard any complaints yet!

How about "Jovanka" for you?

Mor Ephrem has had the same consistent name throughout and a Slavic sounding name would not be appropriate for him.

But if he wanted a name change, given he is of the tradition of St Thomas of India, I would suggest the name of "Thomas Mor!"

Alex

Dear Alex,

Not that I want to change my name or anything, but I always liked Saint Thomas More. I don't know all that much about him, but his last words before his execution always struck me as having an in-your-face attitude, and I like things like that.

Alex,
No, no -- can't I just say "Communion-of-Saints" with an accent, and you'll be content ....?

Dear Mor Ephrem,
You know, I believe there's a book out that contains the letters of Saint Thomas More, as well as a couple of good biographies. I don't have any of these myself, but I think I have seen them ... just to let you know when you have the time, you'll be able to read "more" about him...
And let us always pray for the intercession of the saints,
c of s

Dear Qathuliqa Mor,

As you know, St Thomas More was very "in your face" before his martyrdom.

The night before, he told the gaoler that he "had changed his mind."

The man ran to the King's quarters and King Henry himself rose at midnight in all his royal finery and went to the Tower to see his friend Thomas . . .

More then looked up innocently at the King and told him, "Sire, I thought up shaving off my beard before my execution - but I changed my mind!"

He carried a red-coloured cross to the scaffold the next day - a picture of him with it survives in a private collection belonging to one of his descendants.

He asked Thomas Cranmer NOT to minister to him which offended the Archbishop of Canterbury . . .

His family later added another "o" to their family name to come up with "Moore" so as to disguise themselves a bit.

It is interesting that Roger Moore who played "The Saint" is actually a direct descendant of Thomas More.

I met Thomas Moore, the spiritual/psychological writer, who was a former Servite Monk and who is very conscious of his lineage from St Thomas More.

Alex

Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glory to Him Forever!

What would be the Ukrainian version of the name "Adam"?

Adam

What would be the Ukrainian version of the name "Adam"?

I was wonderin' the same thing.

"Adam" Kemner

Dunno about the Ukie language, but me late baba would have called you Adamku - with the accent on the second syllable, both a's short, and the u long.

Dear Adam,

In Ukie, this would be "Ah-DAHM/ with the "ahhs," like you would tell a doctor when he's checking your throat, , and with the emphasis on the second syllable, rather than the first, as it is in English.

"Adamku" would be a form of the Vocative Case by someone who knows you well as in "Hey, Adam/ku!" or as in "Adam/ku, be good!"

Otherwise, the Vocative would be "Adam/eh!"

There is a joke about the origin of the names "Adam and Eve."

Our First Parents were having an argument and Eve threatened by saying, "Ah-DAHM!" ("I'll give you one," as in a punch with the fist or the like).

To which Adam replied by saying, "Eh-voh!" (Vocative of "Eva" meaning, in this context, "Like I'm afraid of you!").

Alex

Dear Alex:

Correction, please. . .

If I remember it right, Adam responded to Eve: "It seems you have just lost a leaf!!!

AmdG

"Adamku" That is neato. All I know is that my son would be (in OCS) "Ioanna Zlatousta Adamavicha" and what ever "of the combs" would translate into OCS.

Dear Amado,

Or else Adam, when he met Eve, himself turned over a new leaf . . .

My, but you ARE branching out, aren't you?

Alex