He's still driving around in his environmentally-hostile SUV! Bottom line: all of this "global warming" hype is part of an international political power grab. We manufacture a crisis, and then have a newly-formed global government (EU, only on a much larger scale) step in to "solve" the problem!
He's still driving around in his environmentally-hostile SUV! Bottom line: all of this "global warming" hype is part of an international political power grab. We manufacture a crisis, and then have a newly-formed global government (EU, only on a much larger scale) step in to "solve" the problem!
There is a type of commodities market for carbon credits. The money large companies push into that market is not insignificant. Perhaps their motivation is PR, perhaps their managers buy into the dogma. Their investment seems rather silly to me.
Buy carbon credits and be "carbon neutral", so they consume a constant amount of energy but claim to be environmentally friendly because they instituted a self-imposed carbon tax upon themselves.
I could find a better use for the money, I'm sure.
Have you noticed how cold the weather has been this year?
Here in Los Angeles, we usually experience hot weather in the high 80s and early 90s during the latter part of January through the middle of February. Not this year. It has been very cold. I do not dare to venture out without my coat and a wrap for my head, and this during the middle of the day.
This is the worst winter in our area since the mid 1980's. We have already had several sub 0 days and nights and a good deal of snow. Algore is a good capitalist in the PT Barnum category but not much else.
Gotta agree with both of you. We had 2 degrees this morning with wind chill taking it to minus 17 degrees. That's bitter. Our furnace ran almost all night and we've done all the insulation and window & door replacement that our old house can stand. Our forecast is for more of the same for the rest of the week with snow accumulating on the ground. Right now it's just past noon and the temp isn't more than 10 degrees with high winds making it feel much colder.
This is the worst winter in our area since the mid 1980's. We have already had several sub 0 days and nights and a good deal of snow. Algore is a good capitalist in the PT Barnum category but not much else.
Acutaly that is what global warming is! Tempratures rise causing the glaciers of eastern greenland to melt causing the sea tempratures to lower causing thus a mini ice age to begin descending on the inhabited world. Nothing new but a repeat of metrological history. Put on and extra sweater or think of moving south. Stephanos I
Actually I think I'll take the sweater advice. The south has its share of snakes and scorpions and at least they're not active in this are for most of the year.
The nice thing about it being cold here, is the fire ants and pine beetles stay inside
It truly has been weird here. One day in the 20s the next day in the 60s. We had a really cold spell, then it went to very warm days.
I agree with Fr. Stephanos, it is a cyclical change. Algore is out for $$$$$$$ and popularity, along with control. It doesn't mean that we don't need to take better care of our world. I sure don't seem him doing anything to make a change in his life.
That is all it is about, too many in government and power are looking for 'world power'. I don't trust them any further than I could pick them up and throw them.
Some of these politicians want to usher in a New World Order or even force a Third World War (starting with Iran) where they can try out their new toys at our expense.
Maybe the Goracle can revise his charts and get the UN to tax us more if we don't use aerosol cans enough, or maybe I'll be able to buy a fish filet in a styrofoam box again.
Have you noticed how cold the weather has been this year?
Here in Los Angeles, we usually experience hot weather in the high 80s and early 90s during the latter part of January through the middle of February. Not this year. It has been very cold. I do not dare to venture out without my coat and a wrap for my head, and this during the middle of the day.
That's about what I remember growing up in the late 1970s, 1980s and early 1990s in L.A. County. I remember some winter highs in the 60s and 50s. As well, the ice cold Aleutian Winds blow down from Alaska every so many years. I remember my friends and I would walk around Pasadena making fun of the Rose Bowl tourists, wearing shorts, who thought it'd be warm. LOL.
In the past decade since I've been away my family tells me things have been obscenely warm in the winter.
Here in Philadelphia, however, this has been a VERY mild winter.
BTW, has anyone considered that global warming and Maunder Minimum may cancel each other out?
I was just out cleaning about two new inches of "partly cloudy" from my walks and driveway. The temp is a chilly 10 degrees and the wind is still blowing hard. All I need to be a popsicle is a stick taped to my back--I'm frozen. Is this global warming? If so, I'd hate to be in the middle of global cooling.
In contrast, global warming is a trend that has been recorded over decades and around the world.
Contempt for global warming is not going to make it go away. Neither will projecting contempt on the most public figure involved in raising awareness about global warming. Neither will claims of a con-job or a conspiracy.
The only thing that will slow global warming is reducing the amount of pollutants that we human beings put into the atmosphere, such as CO2 and methane. The only thing that will (eventually) reverse global warming is removing those pollutants from the atmosphere -- most likely by growing lots of plants, such a trees.
If Eastern Christians actually kept the fasting rules and refrained from eating animal products on all of the fasting days, it would proportionately reduce the demand for those products. That, in turn, would reduce demand for cutting down forests for more ranch land. And that, plus going to confession for hating Al Gore, could cut down on a lot of hot air.
P.S. Fasting alone will not solve global warming, but it could solve us.
Most of what is causing global warming is human activity. And most of that activity is our own addiction to pleasuring ourselves: by driving cars everywhere, by eating enormous amounts of animal products, by having electronic devices that always on enough to respond to a remote control, etc. We have built a culture and economy of pleasuring ourselves under the title of convenience. But, it has a price: enormous demands for energy, based on burning carbon, that adds up to global warming.
However, if we practiced more restraint, we wouldn't have such an insatiable demand for pleasuring ourselves. By self-discipline and God's grace, we could overcome that part of ourselves. And then, we wouldn't balk at more energy efficient forms of transportation, eating and keeping our systems wired.
We will never learn to control global warming till we learn how to control ourselves. In both instances, we need to cool down. And fasting is a fine way to start and practice how.
Im sorry I very much disagree with you, the amount of polutants that we contribute to the inviroment is minimal in its affects on global warming. Read the report by the Pontifical Academy of Science, some of the top experts in the world.
That being said should we stop polluting the environment? Most definitely! It is our Christian obligation to do so. We are to be stewards of God's creation and respect His creation. Stephanos I
I'm sorry I very much disagree with you, the amount of pollutants that we contribute to the environment is minimal in its affects on global warming. Read the report by the Pontifical Academy of Science, some of the top experts in the world.
That being said should we stop polluting the environment? Most definitely! It is our Christian obligation to do so. We are to be stewards of God's creation and respect His creation. Stephanos I
Dear Father,
I think Patriarch Bartholomew, also know as the Green Patriarch, will also agree with you.
Sorry, Harmon, but I still think that all of the hype over global warming (it was 6 degrees farenheit here in NE Pa as I came to work yesterday morning-global warming, indeed!)being the result of human activity is absolute drivel. The comments of the scientists who dissent against this view appear to be much more logical, and probable (i.e. the idea that the rise in global temperatures is primarily the result of the activity of the sun-they also see an imminent period of global cooling, based on a cooling down of the sun's activity). Their thinking is based on historical occurrence. They point out that there was a "freeze" in the 1700's, precisely at the time when the sun's activity was not as "heated" as it is today. On the other hand, the politicians (both nationally, and internationally) who are promoting the notion that WE are causing global warming are doing this for a reason. They have an agenda. It involves the creation of a "mega-government" to deal with this alleged "mega-problem". Much wailing on global warming is coming from places like the U.N. and the E.U. The agenda of these bodies has always been about global government. Al Gore has, for some time, been on record as being a globalist. The warming issue is a just a convenient vehicle for promoting the agenda. Most of the world's people like their own culture, and their own governments (at least those who aren't living under Bolshevism and other forms of tyranny). The creation of a global government would be a "hard sell" almost everywhere, if it were not for the sense that there is a "crisis" which only a global government can deal with. What is especially dangerous about all this is the notion of government which these people possess. Most of the "movers and shakers" of globalism are agnostic or atheistic, and hold the view that "rights" are not something which are inherent to mankind (or should I say "us all" )because they are given by God (who, in their minds, most likely does not exist), but they are granted by government, and may be taken away by government. Both the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights, and the old Soviet Constitution, have clauses which state things like "the right to assembly shall be granted, except where prohibited by law". What government gives, government can take away. In theory, I am not opposed to the notion of global government, if it is rooted in the values of the Gospels. But, you will note that the E.U., in putting together it's constitution, deliberately refused to acknowledge the Christian foundations of Europe (despite the protestations of Pope John Paul II, and Patriarch Bartholomew). To summarize, what Al Gore is promoting is "globaloney" with a dark agenda.
Dn. Robert
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Very well put Deacon Robert, my sentiments exactly. Sadly I see more and more young people in this country who have come to believe that the UN is the final authority on everything, even superceding our own Constitution. How I dream of a day when we evict the final authority from our land.
Or charge them a humungous rate of rent for the UN building that it will make our economy one of the richest in the world. But seriously I for one would like to see the dissolution of the UN, who has outlived its usefullness and desirability. Let the games begin. Stephanos I
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I believe Mr. Gore's function in this global warming campaign is that of a prestiguous spokesman rather than as the expert. That's what I found strange about his testifying on GW to a congressional committee. Obviously he believes in his cause; I simply challenge his expertise.
Interesting novel on global warming and its political/social impact is State of Fear by Michael Crichton. Admittedly, the extremes (e.g., murder) to which the GW adherents will go is a bit of a stretch; but it presents some interesting ideas. And it is a NOVEL - fiction!
Don't tell him that. Al Gore prides himself on the issues he devotes his energies to. Throughout his political life he dove into one issue or another, trying to understand it as fully as possible. He believes that he is an expert.
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Is this global warming? 
If so, I'd hate to be in the middle of global cooling. 
