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Dear Administrator and Forum Colleagues,

It was a long weekend and I am bushed. But I wanted to share with you what I experienced during WYD.

I already related Tuesday's events, greeting the Pope at the airport and all that.

What followed was two days of wild preparations for the luncheon for the papal delegation at Martyrs' Shrine in Midland.

As I drove north, the sight of a Franciscan Friar in sandals walking quickly toward the city while reading his Office became forever etched in my imagination.

People in cars not used to this sight were in shock, at least some of them!

I got to the Shrine in plenty of time and sat down with the Director for a chat before a phone call came in saying the press were on their way as someone told them the Pope would be at the Shrine! No such luck however . . .

Soon, the bus carrying the papal delegation pulled up. Archbishop Sandri, the assistant to Cardinal Sodano came out and he concelebrated Mass in the Shrine Church.

We all walked across to the Fort Ste. Marie among the Hurons where we lunched on breaded pickerel, soup, corn bread and other 17th century Jesuit delicacies!

I sat with Fr. Joaquin Navarro-Walls who is the Vatican communications man.

He and the Archbishop were with the Pope in "Leopoli" or L'viv in for the papal visit to Ukraine.

He said that Lubomyr Huzar was a "very, very nice man."

I said "You liked our Patriarch did you?" smile

He replied, with a smile, "Yes, your Cardinal was very nice."

Topics of conversation included why RC's make the Sign of the Cross from left to right and we do the opposite and other topics of intense theological and liturgical interest . . .

After a while, I was wondering if this Jesuit was a lurker on this Forum smile

I then whined and complained about not being able to see the Pope and so I went back to Strawberry Island with some of the delegation before heading back down to Toronto for the Way of the Cross that was scheduled for six o'clock that evening.

Prior to this, I told one of the priests involved with protocol that I had two envelopes and a rosary to give the Pope.

I was then set upon by security who took the items from me and started checking them out. They took them away but later I was told that the items got to the intended person!

(Sheeesh! What kind of damage can one do with paper? Paper cut someone to death? smile ).

I met the Pope briefly, in fact when the priest behind me thought I was taking too long, I felt him nudge me.

I knelt and kissed His Holiness' hand and spoke with him in Ukrainian.

I sent along verbally everyone's best wishes from this Forum, and His Holiness smiled and asked me to convey to all of you here His Apostolic Blessing.

He said he prays for the Eastern Catholic and Orthodox Churches daily. He said he particularly likes the Jesus Prayer and the Akathist to the Mother of God!

He gave me a very nice rosary and a card with his picture on one said and his signature on the other.

And that was it, that was all of it.

I was in tears on my way home that evening.

On Saturday, His Holiness "came to me" so to speak with his helicopter landing on the grounds of the Mother House of the Sisters of St Joseph, directly behind our home.

We heard his choppers in the night and also first thing in the morning.

Last night, I walked to the monastery and joined countless others in praying and watching there. I said a rosary for His Holiness and then hung a large white plastic rosary on the monastery gates and left it there. It wasn't there when I went by there this morning.

Everyone was so congenial and wonderful. I met and hugged so many people from different countries and cultures.

There was at once the sense of the universal Catholic Church AND the sense of the great diversity of culture and language.

His Holiness did mention the Eastern Catholics and the Orthodox in his homily on Saturday night. But this was all about Christian praxis, love and celebration together. Anything else was truly irrelevant then.

His Holiness permeates the love of Christ. To meet him is to experience a sacramental encounter with the Lord Jesus. I have no other way of expressing what I felt.

I also came to realize how many aspects of my life need to be Christianized in deeds, as well as in theory.

In addition to that monk walking along the roadway saying his breviary, there was another image of a young woman who held beads in one hand and held up a crucifix in another as she prayed.

And then there was that moment on Sunday when the Pope said, "The time has come for us to go on our daily paths. In your backpacks you have a Cross. It is now time to put on that Cross."

And people did, or else took theirs off and put them on again.

I wore a large three-Bar Eastern Cross.

But in the end it didn't matter, Latin Cross or Byzantine Cross or Armenian etc.

The experience of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ in our midst is what mattered and what matters.

My life will not be the same again.

I learned that my diabetes is not only about the fact I have lived on a bad diet.

The insight came to me that I had not lived enough on the spiritual food of the Scriptures, prayer, Holy Communion, reaching out to those in need.

This is all "our Daily Bread" since Jesus is to be experienced in them all.

May God give us all this daily bread always.

May we all put on the Cross of Christ and allow ourselves to be used by Him in the world in accordance with His Will and for the building up of His Church.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

May the Lord bless His Holiness, Pope John Paul II, and continue to guide him and uphold him now and always!

Alex

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Alex,

I wondered when 4001 was coming, I thought you had been translated. Apparently, you were, as evidenced by your encounter with the Pope as a sacramental experience. WOW! What an impact!


I had a question about this comment:

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I sat with Fr. Joaquin Navarro-Walls who is the Vatican communications man.

He and the Archbishop were with the Pope in "Leopoli" or L'viv in for the papal visit t
He said that Lubomyr Huzar was a "very, very nice man."

I said "You liked our Patriarch did you?" smile

He replied, with a smile, "Yes, your Cardinal was very nice."

Topics of conversation included why RC's make the Sign of the Cross from left to right and we do the opposite and other topics of intense theological and liturgical interest . . .

After a while, I was wondering if this Jesuit was a luker on this Forum smile


Alex


I thought it was Dr Joaquin Navarro-Valls, and I didn't realize he was SJ. I understood he was OD, Opus Dei. Great to have you back...

John

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Dear Alex,

Thank you for your reports on WYD and the presence of the Holy Father among you there. I especially appreciate them since we don't get EWTN on our cable system here and there were minimal reports on the news. Most of them stressed the Pope's few remarks about the scandal.

You provided a sense of perspective about what's real in this.

Thanks again!

Steve

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Dear John,

Yes, you are right. I had great difficulty keeping the priests and laity separate from the bishops in the papal delegation. No one wore a clerical collar - it was too hot and we were in the country anyway.

I must confess that I didn't really talk about his background and we got onto the "hot" topics right away.

The cabinet minister I was with told me to come to his table so he could present me to "Leonardi."

I wondered who that "Leonardi" was since there were only clerics seated with him.

As it turned out, it was Archbishop Sandri and I told the minister quietly I thought it was entirely inappropriate for him to be calling him by his Christian name!

I knelt on my left knee and received his blessing before kissing his hand.

He wasn't used to such respect, I guess, as he then pulled me up on my feet ever so quickly.

I added the words, "Pax vobiscum" to the minister's speech and he was a hit when he said that!

They all replied with, "Et cum spiritu tuo!" And the Archbishop greeted him with "Dominus Vobiscum, Minister!"

I await the minister's expression of gratitude that will doubtless come this morning smile .

It was also moving to break bread with the papal delegation on the same soil in which Sts. Jean de Brebeuf and Gabriel Lalemant are buried, or at least their remains are, even though their relic-bones are elsewhere.

It was here that their missionary outreach went on.

It was also here that my mother came to give thanks for having conceived me.

Alex

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Alex,

Thanks so much for the account.

Just a little thought for you, re the diabetes:

There is a large component of diabetes which is related to the immune system - both in the beginnings of it and the results you live with daily. Seems that one of the things which boosts the immune system (along with enough sleep, decent diet and regular moving of the corpse) is a soul at peace - i.e a life of prayer, and all that flows from it. Laughter too.

So pray, do good, and take joy from it. You'll be helping your body as well as your soul.

Best,

Sharon

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Alex,

I am envious & happy for you at the same time. wink

Nicky's Baba

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Dear Babtsiu!

No reason to be envious at all!

I feel a very different individual and also feel some pain inside as I struggle to see what path I am to follow now. Don't know which one, but I know it is a different one.

Please accept His Holiness' Apostolic Blessing which he asked me to pass along to you. Please accept it as if he were blessing you and you alone.

Alex

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Alex, that was surely a moving experience ,I thank God that you were able to experience it. Though I too wish I could have been in your shoes at the time, I know that I pale in comparison to your holiness (and His holiness) and I know that nobody here that I know of has deserved this experience more than you.
May God have mercy on us all, and may He watch over our friend Alex, now and always, and unto the ages of ages amiin.
Slava Isusu Christu!

-Justin


May peace be with you all, brothers ans sisters in Christ
Amen
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Dear Justin,

You are kind, but the entire experience has taught me just how much of my being is permeated with self-love and "unholiness."

I feel spiritually restless now and it is time for me to be up and doing.

Lead, Kindly Light, I surrender to Your Will!

Alex

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Alex, you had quite a time I must admit. Your avid description of food brings out the spirit of the moment, I suppose.

Thank you for trying, and for the reassurance that the letter and our comments had arrived. I do hope the fellows weren't on loan from airport security. A mere envelope might have you implicated with terrorists when it comes to those guys.

How were the strawberries?

In IC XC
Samer

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Dear Samer,

Yes, I was quite shocked at the tight security when I offered your letter, the comments from this Forum and Joe Zollars' Anglican Use Chaplet he also sent along to present to the Holy Father.

It was also quite amusing, since they had spent about a week prior to this giving me security clearance. But they have their protocol rules

When my cabinet minister showed up with a gift for the papal delegation, he was stopped in his tracks as well.

Archbishop Sandri didn't have a gift to give him in return, so he was asked not to publicly present his.

It was at the luncheon when people let their hair down - those bishops who still had some left, that is smile

I remember when His Holiness came there in 1984 and his parting words were: "I will ask my (Divine) Superior if I can become a tour guide here at Ste. Marie among the Hurons!"

I received a papal gift from the Archbishop, a little portrait of the Pope. He had three and I was one of the lucky recipients.

The good Jesuit Father next to me started to grumble when he saw me with it, saying words to the effect that "They wouldn't think of presenting one of those to us as a memento!"

And if he thought I was going to give it up just to be nice, he thought wrong! smile

Who was it who said, "It is said I should love my neighbour as myself - and I'm only in the first stage of that process!"

Alex

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Thank you so much for sharing your observationson WYD! I almost felt as if I was actually there.

God bless you! biggrin

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Dear Monastic Beginner,

The Spirit that was at WYD is ours for the asking, no matter where we are!

May that same Holy Spirit anoint you and overshadow you all the days of your life!

Alex

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Dear Mother Sharon,

Thank you for your insights!

I agree that spirituality is an important factor in helping one maintain one's sense of equilibrium in fighting diseases like diabetes.

I'm pushing for our clinic to have a spiritual component in the treatment of this disease.

Alex

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+JMJ+

Just so that that spiritual componet is Catholic. A Divine Liturgy could do wonders.

Joe Zollars

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