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I was watching a 4 hour block on the History Channel about Russia. There was an hour segment on Peter the Great and how he modernized Russia from a Medieval Empire to a "Modern Empire" (whatever.)
It was said that he would cut the beards and strip the traditional robes of the Boyars if they presented themselves to him in their traditional dress.
How did his reforms make way for the Nikonian reforms, or did they?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Dr Eric it is so good to hear your words/read your words.
You have been in prayers for all this time and shaall continue to be.
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Peter I turned up in the early 18th century; by that time Nikon was dead, his "reforms" were in force, and the Old-Ritualists had become clearly out of communion with the State Church. Funnily enough, nevertheless, Peter's own reform program, while not abolish Nikon's shameful innovations, did frustrate Nikon's personal ambition - to place the Patriarch above everyone, including the Tsar. Peter abolished the Patriarchate, and replaced it with a Lutheran-style "Holy Governing Synod". He and his successors almost drove monasticism out of existence.
One could argue that between the two of them (although they almost certainly never met), they paved the way for the disastrous "Russian Revolution" of the 20th century.
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Dr Eric it is so good to hear your words/read your words.
You have been in prayers for all this time and shaall continue to be.
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Peter I turned up in the early 18th century; by that time Nikon was dead, his "reforms" were in force, and the Old-Ritualists had become clearly out of communion with the State Church. Funnily enough, nevertheless, Peter's own reform program, while not abolish Nikon's shameful innovations, did frustrate Nikon's personal ambition - to place the Patriarch above everyone, including the Tsar. Peter abolished the Patriarchate, and replaced it with a Lutheran-style "Holy Governing Synod". He and his successors almost drove monasticism out of existence.
One could argue that between the two of them (although they almost certainly never met), they paved the way for the disastrous "Russian Revolution" of the 20th century.
Christ is Risen!
Fr. Serge Blahoslovy! So, there's no connection? Could Peter have gotten his reforms from Nikon's ideas? I was hoping for more of a connection, I guess that's the conspiracy theorist in me. 
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Peter I appears to have gotten his religious ideas, such as they were, from the Freemasons, and the continental Lutheran Churches.
May I recommend against calling Peter I "the Great"? Neither Old-Ritualists nor Greek-Catholics regard him as such.
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Peter I appears to have gotten his religious ideas, such as they were, from the Freemasons, and the continental Lutheran Churches.
May I recommend against calling Peter I "the Great"? Neither Old-Ritualists nor Greek-Catholics regard him as such.
Fr. Serge Blahoslovy! Forgive me Father, far be it from me to upset any of my Greek Catholic brethren. (No sarcasm implied.) What did he do to either or both groups? Why is he not great (or is he Terrible) in their eyes? Your unworthy son, Eric
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For some unknown reason Muscovite Tsar Peter I was crowned with the title "Great" by America academia. In his own realm he is only known as Peter the First. In Taras Shevchenko's epic he refers to this tsar simply as "the First" and Empress Cathryn II as "the Second". You will not find this designation in the Russian language but have to go to western European languages to see this factitious titled "great".
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Is it because he westernized the country?
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Well, let's see.
A) Greek Catholics - with his own hands, Peter I personally killed four Greek-Catholic priests in Lithuania.
B) Old-Ritualists (and Orthodox in general, for that matter):
Peter abolished the Patriarchate and turned the State Church into little more than an appendage of the government (there are several books which study this sad development in detail). He himself was openly an unbeliever and engaged in the sort of parodies which the Bolsheviks later became notorious for. He started the campaign to suppress monasticism - and he was a rabid opponent of the 8-pointed [=3-bar] Cross (don't ask me what that particular piece of madness was in aid of). His "westernization" program went to absurd lengths and displayed the utmost contempt for Muscovy and the entire tradition of Rus'. I could go on, but that should suffice for the moment.
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Dr. Eric,
Kind of.
Tsar Peter I did consult with the spin experts of the day from Germany, but I am not that versed on his reign. If you wish I will be glad to discuss some personal opinions on the ramifications of the First's reign.
There is a romantic buffer given to Russian in which academia will overlook social history to preserve, that I do not think they would even grant to elusive Camelot. Even the NEW YORK TIMES and the Pulitzer Committee has compromised their integrity awarding Stalin�s apologist Walter Duranty who hid the 1933 famine genocide in Ukraine that killed 10 million gentry. Why? Because Tsar Peter I proclaimed that �There never was, is not now or ever will be a Ukraine�. That is still being negotiated even as we speak by church and state.
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The Ukrainians used to give an annual "Duranty award" to the journalist who had done the most to promote mendacity in a given year (for obvious reasons the award was always given in absentia). Does anyone know if this is still being done?
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Dr. Eric,
Kind of.
Tsar Peter I did consult with the spin experts of the day from Germany, but I am not that versed on his reign. If you wish I will be glad to discuss some personal opinions on the ramifications of the First's reign. XB! BB! Please do Mykhayl. God Bless You, Eric
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Dr. Eric,
Haven�t I already? Is not 10 million murdered men, women and children of 1933 Ukraine enough to show the Western willingness to whitewash genocide for their illusion of Mother Russia?
What direction do you suggest? You should set some parameters so the administrators of this forum will not worry this is an invitation for an emotional cat fight.
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