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I simply and finally have to admit:
I don't understand women,
I don't understand love.
All I know now is that loving too hard will only leave big wounds.
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What happened in order order to come to this conclusion?
This particular kind of love is certainly difficult to understand.
But saying you don't understand love at all is really somewhat against the very fabric of Christianity. Can you elaborate on what you're feeling?
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This is the very love which we were called to share. Sacrificial love is love of someone that may or may not return it. We are called to love even our enemies, this can be a daunting task especially since our enemies would spit on us and deliver us up. I believe this experience you are going through will help deepen your understanding of what Christ Jesus went through. Use this as a spiritual learning experience. Also, this may teach you not to cling too tightly to human bonds but rather put your whole hope and faith in the ineffable, immutable love of God.
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Errm... at this point, he's talking about loving women... Agape is very much relevant, but its too widespread to address Eli's situation.
Oh... if its about relationships... It can certainly be very frustrating. Can't be helped.
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I would guess that this is close to a unaminous opinion.
My wife and I stay together fo three reasons.
1 .... I love her for some reason.
2 .... She loves me for some reason.
3 .... Since it is not at all clear to either of us what those two reasons are, we have decided to stay together, to see how the research project comes out.
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I think that Plato was right that love (eros) is a form of madness. That is what makes it so difficult to understand and what makes love disappointed so painful.
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I would guess that this is close to a unaminous opinion.
My wife and I stay together fo three reasons.
1 .... I love her for some reason.
2 .... She loves me for some reason.
3 .... Since it is not at all clear to either of us what those two reasons are, we have decided to stay together, to see how the research project comes out. Too funny!
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Welcome to the club, Eli.
I am pretty sure there is a "sister" club on he other side with gals venting about us being hard to understand.
We are hard people, you know. All of us. Understading each other is difficult and love between any of us is truly beyond our natural possibilities, that is why true love is supernatural.
Thanks be to God that, through theosis, we are less and less us and more and more Him and then love and understanding have a chance!
I am going to assume this "conclusion" of yours comes after you were hurt. I pray your wound heals soon.
Shalom,
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Hmmm... An Eastern Catholic matchmaking site would be fun... No?
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guys...
you could certainly squeeze a smile out of me.
and yet it is a smile mixed with bitterness...
I don't know what I worse:
Loving someone who will not return my love,
or trying to kill something so genuine and real in me...
I finally happened and I find the perfect match, and my love secretly grows for her, in a slow, mature, confident way...
but it seems that this seed grew only in my heart, and set it roots deep into my flesh and soul...
ahhhhh
just stab me and get it out of me
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Hmmm... An Eastern Catholic matchmaking site would be fun... No? We Eastern Catholics tried to have a presence on the worldwide Catholic.Match.Com. We even had a Eastern Catholic Room (St. John Chrysostom Room) created over there to not only meet other Eastern and Oriental Catholics, but to also educate our brother and sister Roman Catholics about the complexities of what it means to be members of the numerous Eastern and Oriental Particular Churches. Sadly, they have moved the Eastern Catholic Room over to a auxiliary site, so it seems we aren't worthy enough to co-exist with our Latin Catholic brothers and sisters. Maybe we need to start our own Eastern and Oriental Christian (i.e. Orthodox and Catholic) Match.Com? ECCMatch.com would fill a great need for our single Eastern Christians. ...but I digress. Ung (stepping down from the soap box)
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Been married 31 years, and still it is a mystery to me...
The Good Lord made them that way, I guess, for a good reason...
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Been married 31 years, and still it is a mystery to me...
The Good Lord made them that way, I guess, for a good reason...
james Men are not that easy to understand either!!  
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Alice,
Place a man in front of a big screen tv, with a good baseball/football game, a good steak, taters and beer...presto he becomes putty...
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If we were meant to understand women, they would come with an owner's manual.
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If we were meant to understand women, they would come with an owner's manual.
Alexandr Would that come in the two volume abridged version with accompanying appendixes or just simply the 30 volume encyclopedia version with annual updates? That reminds me of an amusing story. The Lord found an extremely righteous man, and one day spoke to him. The Lord explained that since the man was so righteous, He would grant him one wish to show such favor. The man thought for a while and then responded, �I would like a bridge built from California to Hawaii�. The Lord responded that this was a monumental task and asked if there was something simpler the man would want. The man thought long and hard, then replied �Yes, can you tell what is on a woman�s mind and how to understand her?� There was a long pause from the Lord. Then the Lord said, �Do you want that bridge with two lanes or four?�
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Hmmm...you know, women tend to speak their mind and express their emotions verbally where as *men* are the ones who don't... Me thinks that it is the men, who are 'tuning out' and not comprehending!   Then again, what can we women from Venus expect from aliens? After all, men are from Mars!  In Christ, Alice
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Hmmm...you know, women tend to speak their mind and express their emotions verbally where as *men* are the ones who don't... Me thinks that it is the men, who are 'tuning out' and not comprehending! Then again, what can we women from Venus expect from aliens? After all, men are from Mars! In Christ, Alice You all say that... and I always end saying what I feel becoming by that the perfect victim for an emotional lynch. But it would explain the green spots on my skins though
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Been married 31 years, and still it is a mystery to me...
The Good Lord made them that way, I guess, for a good reason...
james Been married 32 years and my guess is that my poor wife got the word that she'd never spend a minute in Hell after a lifetime with me. BOB
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You just haven't found the right woman. Believe me, there is a woman out there who is just as confused as you are about love and she is looking for you - so keep your eyes open - she may be sitting next to you licking a popsicle.
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"She may be sitting next to you licking a popsicle."
In that case you will need patience.
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In all seriousness, when I was dating (or trying to date) I felt exactly the same way. I threw up my hands at all the flirting games and came to know myself and my temperament...I then became convinced that there was no girl out there who could tolerate me. This whole process took some time and was very frustrating. So when I found my wife, I was glad I wasn�t too successful at the dating game.
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Has anyone here read any books by Joshua Harris? Although more geared towards the younger dating community, he appears to touch on some general Christian ideas on the subject that might be relevant to any age. I'm curious about others' thoughts about his books.
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Hmmm... An Eastern Catholic matchmaking site would be fun... No? Widowed Eastern Catholic Female, 47 Enjoys exploring the desert and playing stupid computer games; great at cooking, not-so-great at cleaning ISO Eastern Catholic Male, 44-52 Must love liturgy, the Sci-Fi channel, red meat and red wine. Must be willing to take on the challenge of 2 young boys and in-laws who live only 5 minutes away. Sense of humor and the ability to communicate in polysyllabic words required.
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