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Obama wants to better only the US? Thats odd, given that Obama is a Globalist who woudl like to see the United States under greatr regulation form the UN, and has said htis himself as a promenant part of his current platform. He also wants ot sign the GLobal Poverty Act, which wold grant the UN the ability to tax the United States of their raised mony, in order to redistribute the wealth abroad. Obama also makes it clear that he is for increased globilisaiton in tersm of economic development and very, very pro-internaitonal COnsensus.

I'm sorry, but Obama doesn't put the United States ahead of any other part of the world, byt he GLobal Poverty Act alone he puts the poorest naitosn in the third world above the US, and by his desire ot modle the US after Europe and his increasingly visble socialist, and veen COmmunist, connections and desire to create a glbal netowrk of support and interdependancy, Obama is not capable of beign refered to as a man who puts the US first.

He outs his SOcialist Agenda firts, period.

The man even apologises for the US a lot for pity's sake.

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Isn't it Catholic teaching that pressuring someone into marriage invalidates the marriage? When I was Catholic I heard from priests and theologians who said that the Church actually refuses to marry a woman who is pregnant to the father since the situation suggests that there may not be full freedom. Is pressuring this young man into marrying her really the best thing to do? Or is this a marriage that will end up in divorce a few years down the road? Only time will tell.

As far as Obama goes, I have to ask, "how much do we know about his interactions with his half brother and do we actually have evidence that Obama is refusing to help his half brother?"

Joe

Agreed, Joe.

Alexis

From the article:


I can only assume that Dinesh D'Souza has done his homework and that George Obama is still living in poverty, no thanks to his half-brother Obama.

I can only imagine that the Obama campaign would be only too happy to say something has been done to help George...that is, of course, if something had in fact been done.

Politicians, The whole lot stink of corruption and evil. I will not vote for any of them from any party.

Converted Viking

By David McKenzie
CNN

HURUMA, Kenya (CNN) -- We found Barack Obama's half-brother living in a Nairobi slum.

George Obama, whose birth certificate shows that he is Barack Obama's half-brother, lives in a small house in Huruma that he shares with his mother's extended family, far away from the presidential campaign circus.

In his memoir, "Dreams for my Father," the Democratic presidential candidate describes meeting George as a "painful affair." Barack Obama's trip to Kenya meant meeting family he had never known.

In the book, which is popular in Nairobi and can be found in almost any supermarket, Obama looks back at his personal story and his struggles to reconcile with a Kenyan father who left him and his mother when he was just a child.

Barack Obama Sr. died in a car accident when George was just 6 months old. And like his half-brother, George hardly knew his father. George was his father's last child and had not been aware of his famous half-brother.

"I think I wanted to learn about my father the same way he did," George Obama told me about why he read the book. "He came here searching for his roots, and I was also trying to find my roots." Watch George Obama talk about meeting his half-brother for the first timeVideo

Unlike his grandmother in Kogela, in Western Kenya, George Obama had received little attention from the media.

But reports surfaced in the past few days, springing from an Italian Vanity Fair article saying George Obama is living in a shack and "earning less than a dollar a day."

The reports left him angry.

"I was brought up well. I live well even now," he said. "The magazines, they have exaggerated everything.

"I think I kind of like it here. There are some challenges, but maybe it is just like where you come from, there are the same challenges," Obama said.

Obama, who is in his mid-20s, is learning to become a mechanic and is active in youth groups in Huruma. He said he tries to help the community as much as he can.

At least one of his neighbors feels that perhaps the candidate should help the brother.

"I would like Obama to visit his brother to see how he is living, to improve his way of life," said Emelda Negei, who runs a small dispensary near Obama's house.

But George Obama will have none of it. He draws inspiration from his famous half-brother. He acknowledges that he is biased but said he knows that his half-brother will be the next president.

"Because he wants to be [president]," he said. "I think in life, what you want is what you are supposed to get."
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What more does one need to say? George Obama is hardly Barack's brother, any more than Cindy McCain sisters are McCain's sisters-in-law.
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Cindy McCain's Half-Sister: I'm Voting For Obama
| August 28, 2008 01:26 PM

Cindy McCain's half-sister tells Us Magazine that she won't help put her famous sibling in the White House:

"I'm not voting for McCain," Kathleen Hensley Portalski tells Us. "I have a different political standpoint.

"I'm voting for Obama," the Phoenix resident says. "I think his proposals to improve the country are more positive and I'm not a big war believer."

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Portalski's son Nathan, an aerospace machinist, is also backing Obama.

"I wouldn't vote for John McCain if he was a Democrat," he tells Us. "I would not vote at all before I'd vote for him.

"I question whether Cindy is someone I'd want to see in the White House as first lady," he adds.

Portalski went public with her connection to the McCains after hearing Cindy say on the trail that she was an only child.

"I'm upset," she told NPR. "I'm angry. It makes me feel like a nonperson, kind of."

"It's terribly painful," Portalski added. "It is as if she is the 'real' daughter. I am also a real daughter."

The Washington Post subsequently reported that Cindy has another half-sister who seems to have slipped her mind:

Before her marriage to Hensley, Johnson had a daughter, Dixie Burd, by a previous relationship. Burd, who is much older than Cindy, could not be reached for comment.

Sorry...what do you expect him to say? To whine about his situation? To complain to the world that he lives in a hut with many relatives in a slum in Nairobi while his flesh and blood half-brother lives in a very nice home acquired with the assistance of an indicted Chicago fixer? Perhaps he should talk to Tony Rezko. He might get farther in getting some housing assistance like his brother did.

I think this man has personal, manly pride. He is not going to whine about his brother's neglect. His very situation says it all.


These are the words of the reporter. There is nothing said here (or in the subsequent quote) that indicates "he will have none of it" (no assistance from his brother to lift him out of poverty).

12 dollars...
12 bucks...
12 samoleans...
12 smackers...

...will double this man's annual income.

I'm putting 12 dollars in the mail to George Obama this week.

As for Kathleen Hensley Portalski, is she living in squalor like George Obama? The article did not say...

I am curious about whether Cindy claimed to be "an only child" or rather said that she was raised as an only child. Not knowing the details of their whole family situation, it is difficult to say who was raised with whom and when. Clearly there is some conflict there between Cindy and Kathleen.

As I said, though, I am no McCain man. I'm much more of a Palin person.

But the ticket is what it is.

...and when given the choice between Obama and his unyielding support for the ending of innocent human life in the womb (and outside of it) versus McCain's almost perfect pro-life record, I will vote for mccain/PALIN.

God bless,

Fr. Deacon Daniel

Bob--while I would agree that there are still some who would "do the right thing" and marry the person that they impregnated, we're talking about children here. While I have no doubt that thankfully Palin would not allow her child to even consider an abortion, I have to doubt the wisdom of a parent who would allow or force, whatever the case is here we'll never know, joining two children just because they were careless and conceived a child. Obviously in her situation, Bristol would certainly have enough resources and support to not want for anything for her and her child without being put into a situation that could later be regreted and cause more heart break. If one of my sons was in that situation at that age, I would certainly demand that they take responsibility for their carelessness, but I would never allow them to marry at 17 until they proved that they were truly in love and emotionally ready for that commitment. Physically parenting a child does not a parent make any more than going through a ceremony makes a marriage.

John

DO NOT go by heresay on this one... Do some more due dillegence.

There are indeed priests who would not marry a couple under those conditions - and there are bishops who would support the priest.

Coercion on even one of the parties to be married (let alone both parties) is grounds for annulment, and few if any priests enjoy having a marriage which they witnessed declared null and void.

There are also some people who appear to believe that the Church ought not to give annulments. After 41 years, I can bear witness that the "impediments" really do happen from time to time.

Fr. Serge

Most definitely, Father.

God bless,

Fr. Deacon Daniel

Father Deacon,

What you're doing is projecting your own beliefs and assumptions about George Obama and then spitting it out as fact. You're trying to rationalize your presupposed view, which cannot be changed, with this new information that by all accounts seems to contradict it.

Which is fine, but let's just all be clear that these are your presumptions and are not facts. By what we can glean from the second article and from George Obama himself, the situation is simply entirely unlike how Vanity Fair, and you, earlier reported it.

Alexis

Hmm...maybe you're right. I'm simply "projecting" that a man who has a millionaire for a brother while he lives in squalor and an overcrowded "hut" would not mind it, in fact would find it even desirable, that his half-brother send him a check for $12 dollars to double his annual income...yet does not want to appear to be "begging" in a very public and humiliating way to the international press for his brother to share the bread crumbs that fall from his table.

Or maybe that is simply a reasonable assumption on my part.

And the so-called "new information" does not contradict anything. It is the reporter's words "he will have nothing to do with it."

God bless,

Fr. Deacon Daniel

Father Deacon,

It is, in my opinion, not a reasonable assumption.

He says he lives well, that he was brought up well. From his own words it is only logical to assume that he does not see himself in need of financial assistance. Or do people who self-admittedly "live well" still need financial assistance in your eyes?

Alexis

It is entirely possible that people "who self-admittedly 'live well' may be in need of financial assistance". "Live well" is a relative term with several possible meanings. Emergency medical or dental care, lack of capital for housing, lack of cash to pay for the education of one's children . . . the circumstances of need are endless and not confined to any particular places.

If we really care, there are ways of keeping one's eyes open without being intrusive.

Fr. Serge