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indigo #303544 11/05/08 04:03 PM
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Dear Friends,

In actual fact, "Ukrainian Catholic" is a recent term and our bishops have been struggling to develop another name based on "Kyiv" just as other appellations stem from "Rome" or "Byzantium- Constantinople."

"Ukrainian" in any event refers not to cultural identity but to the Rite and Particular Church. It can be confusing as a result and many do adhere to it for cultural/nationalist reasons. Historically, there have been many non-Ukrainians who participated in the heritage of Kyivan Christianity and even headed it as Metropolitans - including St Peter Mohyla Met. of Kyiv, Halych and all Rus' who was Moldavian and many others of Greek, Hungarian, German, Tatar and even Mongolian backgrounds.

(The Scots apparently lived in what is now western Ukraine and were part of "Scythia" while "Scottia" is a play on that name - which is why St Andrew is a shared patron between Scyths and Scots).

It is time for the UGCC to come out from its ethnocultural hiding place and share the spiritual wealth with all of North America.

It took me a long time, but I have come to see the great wisdom in the words of the Administrator here who has always affirmed this.

Alex

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The flipside to cradle EC's who want to check the pedigrees of converts to there church, are the converts who want to instruct cradle EC's in the proper way to be Eastern Catholic. Is one rude and not the other ?

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