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http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/04/orthodox/schmemann-text

Good article by Serge Schmemann: "Soul of Russia
Driven underground for 75 years, the faith of the Russian tsars now enjoys favored status"

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Thank you...this was well worth the time reading it and looking at the beautiful photographs.

May God's Holy Spirit continue to inspire all those who live in Russia...

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The pictures were very striking. I especially enjoyed the picture of the monk in the Great Schema judging the Icon. I was taken aback of the woman in just her underwear being baptized. I guess if this is going to take place, maybe they need some Deaconesses!

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Dr. Eric,

I had the same reaction! But it's better than not being baptized at all! wink

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For what it is worth, I was also taken aback...

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They really are beautiful pictures, though. It is heartening to see.

As far as our little side conversation, it is a funny juxtaposition of sexual propriety to see all these women in the pictures covering their heads in church (which I think is great!), and then to see this woman in her bra. Well, perhaps we should first secure proper baptismal garments (or at least a white t-shirt!) before we start worrying about women covering their heads! LOL.

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For what it is worth, I was also taken aback...

I've been a reader of National Geographic since the 1980's and I've read a lot of their articles on Russia.

One of the impressions that I got from those articles is that Russians seem to have a relaxed attitude towards nudity and skimpy clothes. You have men of all ages relaxing in parks clad only in their briefs, women wearing only skimpy two-pieces, etc.

An effect of the Soviet Union's glorification of the body, perhaps?

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Originally Posted by asianpilgrim
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For what it is worth, I was also taken aback...


One of the impressions that I got from those articles is that Russians seem to have a relaxed attitude towards nudity and skimpy clothes. You have men of all ages relaxing in parks clad only in their briefs, women wearing only skimpy two-pieces, etc.

An effect of the Soviet Union's glorification of the body, perhaps?

I don't think so. Greece has the same relaxed attitude, though I think that has come about because of its beaches and long and hot summers.

In general, European and Russian women are much more into fashionable clothes (which includes skimpy clothes and bikinis)..and that Europeans are in general more relaxed about the body...

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But how does that square with the fact that 99% of the women in this pictures cover their heads?

TradLats and Russian Orthodox, unite! wink

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Okay, I don't know about the photo. It could very well be that you are supposed to be as close to naked as possible to get baptized? I know that men get baptized shirtless into Orthodoxy.

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The article is very good and informative. However, I'd like to comment on three passages in the article:

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Would the Orthodox Church become a potent force for reform, speaking truth to the Kremlin's power? Or would it resume the role it had played over centuries of tsarist rule and again become an ornament and tool of an authoritarian state?

These questions concerned not only the church; the future shape of Russia was at stake. As Russia scholar James H. Billington, now librarian of Congress, wrote a few years after the collapse of the Soviet Union: "Whether the Orthodox Church can wrest itself from the state and become the conscience of the nation will be important in determining whether Russia can discover a new, democratic and civil culture or will return to a dark and threatening authoritarianism."

One thing that I have noticed in the Western media's coverage of various religions -- not just the Orthodox Church, but of conservative religions in general -- is that it tends to measure the "goodness" of a religious body by just how "democratizing" (a.k.a Westenizing) it is. So, if a religious body is supportive of a non-Western government (especially a government that is not in sync with Washington's policies), then it can expect to be portrayed as dark, medieval, oppressive, etc. But if said religious body leads political dissent, constantly denounces the government, etc. then it is good, worthy and honorable.

Don't get me wrong here. A LOT of governments around the world -- the Russian government included -- deserve a lot of rebuking from the pulpits. There is no question that too much corruption exists in a lot of countries, and that the Churches need to speak out more openly against the evils in the nations in which they are present.

Nevertheless, permit me to ask: does everything have to be so black and white? Do Churches have to be purely in the opposition? And why does the Western media insist on being the arbiter of what the Churches ought and ought not to do with regards to politics?

Can't a Church collaborate, for various important reasons, with a particular regime even as it seeks to change that regime from within and without? In my country, there is a phrase for this: "critical collaboration".

What makes me more suspicious is the fact that the Western media and watchdogs seem to dish out this kind of treatment only to those churches or religious groups that support governments with agendae that are not supportive of Washington's policies (Russia and Serbia, for instance). Do you ever hear the Western media criticize the Jewish Rabbinate in Israel for its silence in the face of Palestinian suffering? Do you ever hear the Western media criticize the Islamic establishments in many Arab allies of America?

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Although the Russian Constitution calls for the separation of church and state, Russia's three post-Soviet presidents—Boris Yeltsin, Vladimir Putin, and Dmitry Medvedev—have made regular, well-publicized appearances in church, and Orthodox bishops and priests are fixtures at state functions.

This is what I really can't understand. Does separation of church and state mean that government officials can't attend Church? Does it mean that priests should be invisible in state functions? Please think about the chilling implications of this mentality. If Barack Obama can attend an Episcopal service without comment on the day of his inauguration, why should a Russian President be forbidden from attending an Orthodox service? I really cannot understand the double standard at play here.

I actually find the actions of Medvedev and Putin to be very, very mild. In comparison, my country's President is often shown by state media as attending Mass all over the country, paying respects to a lot of Catholic bishops, going on pilgrimages, receiving Church groups, giving money to Church-related organizations, etc. Our Vice President goes barefoot as an ordinary pilgrim in an annual Catholic penitential procession in Manila. Now, THAT is real coziness between Church and State! The supposedly excessive simfonia in Russia is nothing compared to Church-State relations in many Catholic countries.

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The Orthodox Church is the dominant denomination, so of course they are represented in every sphere of authority. I watch the news: They open a new artillery institute, new entrants are arriving, and there's an Orthodox priest. Why?"

In my country, the Philippines, which is an officially secular country, government offices and hospitals have Catholic chapels where Masses are regularly celebrated, and Catholic chaplains. Priests bless military hardware, and preside over a lot of military events. Catholic prayers are often recited in official government assemblies. No "ecumenical" services necessary for most cases: the Philippines is a Catholic country so people expect the dominance of the Catholic Church to be manifest everywhere. It is but natural, and the Protestants and Muslims here scarcely grumble about it. Please tell me: why can't a dominant religion act like it is dominant, so long as members of minority religions are left free to practice their faith? Is this the crazy meaning of tolerance and "separation of church and state", that every religious body -- from the majority body all the way to the small minorities -- has to act as equally tiny and inconsequential as the others?

Sorry for the rant, but sometimes the foul stench of secularism just drives me mad.

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I read the print edition last night and had the exact same thoughts as you asianpilgrim.

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That post, asianpilgrim, was food for thought.

Western secular media tend to expect Western secular standards, and they are upset when not everyone shares their perspective . . .

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Lovely article - but one would like the Author to write something similar on the Old-Ritualists (who are easily found in Moscow if one but knows the directions to Rogozhskoie).

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That post, asianpilgrim, was food for thought.

Western secular media tend to expect Western secular standards, and they are upset when not everyone shares their perspective . . .

-- John

Yes. Which is why the Western secular media is such a menace to cultures and countries everywhere. Not to speak of that media's penchant for what we Filipinos call "parachute journalism" (a term coined especially to refer to journalists from the West): a journalist "parachutes" into a non-Western country he knows nothing about, and within a few days talks like he's the biggest expert on the country (often by drawing on all sorts of Western cliches and stereotypes that have little in common with the situation at hand).

I'm very sensitive to this because I'm a Filipino who has seen how CNN, BBC, NYT and other Western media outfits routinely distort the stories coming from my country. I think that the Western media does the same to Russia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America. I really think that the "establishment" Western media has very little interest in reporting the truth, and is interested only in perpetuating stereotypes (many of these colonial in origin) that serve to portray the non-Western world as forever backward and in need of Western "guidance" (a.k.a domination).

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