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Brazilians are Latinos? That's interesting.
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Strange way to classify people possibly of Japanese or German decent just because they come from Brazil. I suppose that makes the Welsh from Argentina "Latinios" as well.
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I always thought "Hispanic" in the broadest sense of the word reffered to anyone with roots in the Iberian Penninsula OR anyone from the Spanish or Portuguese speaking lands of Latin America.I would guess Romanians,Italians, and French could be called "latinos" since they all speak a language which evolved from Latin,but I suspect most "Latinos" might disagree.Actually,I think Fr.Serge and myself could qualify as "Hispanics" since the Gaels are thought to have migrated to Ireland from Galicia in Northwestern Spain;my ancestors then migrated to Scotland from Ireland before their sojurn to the New World!
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Brazilians are most definitely not Hispanic.
And, Fr. Al, I'd be Hispanic too, by your measurements.
Perhaps we should all just be labeled African! I mean, if you go back far enough...
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As it happens the Celts are originally Asiatic when they commenced their Westward migration. Some of the Celts settled for a time in Turkey and some in what is now Ukraine, which is why one finds "Galicia" in both of those places.
When they reached Western Europe, the Celts seem to have divided according to their places of settlement: the Gael landed in Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man. Another group landed in Iberia - hence the "Galicia" in that district. However, in Iberia they seem to have lost their language. The Celtic languages remain in Brittany, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and the Isle of Man - with a special status for Cornwall, where Cornish died some time ago and is now enjoying a revival.
The Byzantine Liturgy has been translated into Irish and Welsh.
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This has certainly turned into a very interesting geography lesson. COOL! It really is very interesting, learning all sorts of new stuff here. THANKS!
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For an excellent book on the genetic origins of the peoples of Great Britain and Ireland, I recommend Saxons, Vikings and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland, by Bryan Sykes, W.W. Norton & Co. (New York) 2006. The genes don't lie, and some of the results are surprising,
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Shlomo Stuart waLkhoolkhoon,
I can tell you that I list myself as an Arab, and that it does depend on the generation of the people, but most of us from Arab speaking lands call ourselves Arabs.
It is just not linguistics, but also cultural. There are many Maronites who want to claim that we are Phoenician, but that same claim can be made by the Muslims of Lebanon as DNA evidence has shown.
Also, you are incorrect about the ridgity of the rules of conversion. There are many instances where Muslims have become Christians and vice versa. As a matter of fact the family of the Emirs of Lebanon (the Chehabs) when from being Muslim to being Maronite. Some members are still Muslim.
Fush BaShlomo Lkhoolkhoon,
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