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And who did the Icon of the Mother of God of Kazan belong to in the first place?

"We'll give you back what is rightfully yours, as long as you agree to our terms"

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Like that really matters. The museums and private collections of the world are full of things that once belonged to someone else. The Pope did a wonderful thing in returning the icon. He didn't have to do it.

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Like that really matters. The museums and private collections of the world are full of things that once belonged to someone else. The Pope did a wonderful thing in returning the icon. He didn't have to do it.
It matters!

But yes, the Pope did indeed do a wonderful thing, he did the right thing in returning the icon to it's rightful owner without setting any preconditions.

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But yes, the Pope did indeed do a wonderful thing, he did the right thing in returning the icon to it's rightful owner without setting any preconditions.
And you also do something wonderful in recognizing that.

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God bless the Most Holy Father for being such a charitable man to Patriarch Alexy and his Church. The Pope doesn't need the patriarch's approval to visit the Catholic faithful in Russia, yet is generous enough to wait until the patriarch gives his unnecessary support.

I understand that the Pontiff is doing this for what he perceives as the overall ecumenical good between the Catholic Church and the Russian Orthodox Church, but if I were one of the Catholic faithful in Russia I couldn't help feeling a bit betrayed, or feeling as if I were only a bartering chip and unfairly subjected to the haughty whims of Alexy.

It's a tough situation for Catholics in Russia, but I think it's incontrivertibly uncharitable for Alexy to withhold permission for the Pope to enter Russia when it is the Pope himself who's even giving Alexy any input into whether or not the Pontiff visits his own faithful.

And now because of the ubergenerosity of the Pope and his ardent desire for ecumenical advancement, the Catholic Church is now without custody of the Icon of Kazan and members of the Holy Church in Russia are without a chance to see the Pontiff in their homeland.

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A few days ago, my 17 year old daughter called me on the cell phone to tattle on her 15 year old brother who had been "gossiping on the phone to his girlfriend about my grades", which by the way are A's and B's. As soon as I hung up from an exasperated chat with her, the 15 year old son called me immediately to announce that his sister had been "eavesdropping on my phone calls."

Their ridiculous teenage banter soon deteriorated into near blows. A flustered mother tried to finish the business I was in the middle of and return home before they commenced bruising one another!

Doesn't that remind you of how the Orthodox and Catholics frantically fault one another for so many little perils that are just pride and human nature!

Alice, I wish that the arbitrators of the Church would read your posts! Wouldn't life be easier!

In Christ,

Tammy

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