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http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=6431

New York, September 11, Interfax – Bishops Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia decided to defrock Bishop Agafangel (Pashkovsky) who joined schismatics.

He is given four weeks “to repent and appeal against the decision,” the ROCOR official website has reported.

The Synod also declared invalid all divine services, consecrations and ordeals conducted by Bishop Agafangel since his suspension.

Bishop Agafangel was suspended in 2007. After the Russian Church Outside of Russia re-united with the Moscow Patriarchate on May 17, 2007, he together with some of his associates stopped canonical communication with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia and stated that they and some clerics of ROCOR dioceses who joined them represent the true Russian Church Outside of Russia.

Since then Bishop Agafangel has illegally consecrated new “bishops” and “priests” and continued celebrating the Liturgy in Ukraine.

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They have a chapel two blocks down from me. I looked at their bulletin and wondered about a Church that seems only to have bishops and no priests.

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"too many chiefs, no Indians"?

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"too many chiefs, no Indians"?

How about "a return to the practice of the primitive Church, in which celebration of the Eucharist was the prerogative of the bishop alone"?

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Originally Posted by StuartK
They have a chapel two blocks down from me. I looked at their bulletin and wondered about a Church that seems only to have bishops and no priests.

They have a parish near me too. Sometimes I'm very curious about visiting them, but I'm afraid of what I'd find there.

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They have a parish near me too. Sometimes I'm very curious about visiting them, but I'm afraid of what I'd find there.

Probably something akin to the Holy Orthodox Really Russian Outside Russia (HORROR) Church of Onion Dome fame. It's my understanding that these are people who were unwilling to accept the modus vivendi with the Moscow Patriarchate.

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Actually, one of my classmates from seminary has followed Bishop Agafangel into schism. It is not so much that they consider themselves "Uber-Orthodox", rather than dreams, hopes and preconceived notions were dashed the way the reunion of Canonical Communion took place. Some were waiting for the Czar to appear on a white horse with a legion of Angels to cleanse Holy Mother Russia of the neoplasm of bolshevism. Others expected the Synod to supplant the MP as the legitimate throne of Orthodoxy. It is very sad, and our prayers are needed for those in schism to let go of grandiose dreams and return to canonical communion. If one should enter one of their churches, one would not notice anything different from a real ROCOR church, except the name of the bishop commemorated. And please remember in your prayers the priest Daniel, that he may return to the embrace of Holy Mother Church.

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Originally Posted by Slavipodvizhnik
It is very sad, and our prayers are needed for those in schism to let go of grandiose dreams and return to canonical communion. ... And please remember in your prayers the priest Daniel, that he may return to the embrace of Holy Mother Church.

Alexandr's point is well made and is an appropriate response to the situation.

Prayers for the return of these persons and their clergy to the Church from which they have separated.

Many years,

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Does anybody know why Bishop Varnava of Cannes was suddenly suspended (again) as well?


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