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Originally posted by Diak:
On a bit of a tangent, a read of Father Borys Gudziak's seminal work on the Kyivan Metropolitanate shows the regular contact with Constantinople that the Metropolia continued to keep well after 1453.
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Diak,

It really is an incredible read. Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Reform.../102-6511295-3137731?ie=UTF8&s=books

This book also made connections for me that I had never known between the Unia, the appetites of Moscow and the undue influence of the Islamic caliphate over the EP at the time. Islam certainly had far more influence over East-West disunity than I originally anticipated. Would it not be fitting that recent events with the aggressive growth and behavior of Islam might also bring East and West together now?

God bless,

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Originally posted by Apotheoun:
It would be nice to see the actual text of the 'working document' under consideration, but I do not think that it is available online. Nevertheless, the Moscow Patriarchate's criticism of the document (i.e., if the document is trying to give Constantinople a type of 'universal jurisdiction') is theologically sound. The concept of 'universal jurisdiction' is foreign to the eucharistic ecclesiology of the ancient Fathers and the Orthodox Churches.
It's paragraph 45 of the "working document" entitled: "The ecclesiological and canonical consequences of the sacramental nature of the Church - authority and conciliarity in the Church," as confirmed today by the other ROC-MP delegate to the Belgrade 9th Session, Rev. Igor Vyzhanov.

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=2093

I cited this document previously:

https://www.byzcath.org/bboard/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002802;p=2#000027

However, the full text has not been made available to the public as the International Commission will take it up again at its next meeting in October 2007.

In the meantime, I think the Commission formed a committee to review the draft.

Amado

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