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Thank you, just like the Greek-American community which annually seeks the White House's aid on the issue of Halki. Words and no real action. Lots of Greeks in Chicago as well. Maybe we could make up a list of impacted ethnic groups and their causes for Rahm and other politicians as a study guide. After all, every vote counts. LOL

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No, I bet it didn't minister to the brokenness of Vlad the Bad & co. and it don't much suit me, neither.

In and of itself the statement is good, but when you realize it comes forth from the most pro-abortion administration we have ever had, and is completely out-of-sync with authentic concern for the dignity of human rights and life, it's impact is dulled.

It is not credible to me that supporters of baby-murder can truly be invested in promoting the causes of the culture of life.

It also shows that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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"Honour the Holodomor"?

Is this a joke? If so, it is in remarkably bad taste. The very idea of "honouring" a horrible and deliberate man-made famine whose victims run well into the millions is bizarre and incredible. The Armenians do not honor the wilfull genocide and mass murder of Armenians in Turkey during the early twentieth century. The Irish certainly do not honor the terrible famine in this country in the midst of the nineteenth century (we do, however, honor those who did their best to provide some food for the starving); the Jews do not honor the Shoah and/or its perpetrators; instead there is a program to honor those who attempted to save Jewish lives. Why on earth would anyone honor Stalin's terror-famine in Ukraine?

One would properly honor those who did their best to provide some food to the starving in Ukraine; one should do great honor to those who did their best to bring the terror-Famine to world attention.

The best observance of the anniversary of the Holodomor consists of prayers and services for those who died, and for those who suffered, in the terror-famine.

Fr. Serge

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Not a joke.
Perhaps the word "honour" is a poor choice, but what an overreaction. Sounds like you got your cassock in an uproar. LOL

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Such negativity! Criticize, criticize, critize. Such pessimism here.

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Originally Posted by Pavloosh
Such negativity! Criticize, criticize, critize. Such pessimism here.

I didn't mean to come across as being critical or pessimistic. Having spent a career in local government I understood Stuart's point about ethnic politics in a big city. It doesn't diminish the fact the the United States recognized the Russian culpability in the Holodomor and that is a good thing, regardless of your politics. Have a blessed Thanksgiving!

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It is not uncommon to hear the term: "honoring the dead."


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Lincoln used the phrase in the body of the Gettysburg Address.

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On Saturday, November 27, to commemorate victims of the Holodomor and political repressions in Ukraine, everyone is invited to take part in the national event "Light a Candle for the Victims of the Holodomor."

At 4 p.m. people are asked to light candles in their homes in memory of those who perished during the Holodomor of 1932-1933 in Ukraine and all those affected by the communist totalitarian regime in Ukraine between 1917-1991.


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Me,I'm all for it. If for some reason we can't @ that very time, we'll burn a candle in church on Sunday for this noble and worthwhile intention.

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Dear Pavloosh,

I see that despite my cassock obtained in an uproar, the title of the thread seems to have become "Remembering Holodomor", which is far more appropriate. Thank you.

"Honouring the dead" is quite a respectable thing to do in most cases, and those who died of starvation in these various horrible events may and should indeed be honoured in different ways.

Fr. Serge

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Dear Father Serge:
I truly meant no disrespect. If you were offended by my words, please forgive me. The Holodomor is not to be taken lightly.
Let's light some candles on Saturday.

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This reminds me of how the difficulties of understanding the nuances of the different languages among God's people has been the cause of much of that which divides us. When we talk openly and try to understand each other, God surely guides our path!

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Relax, everyone. Yesterday I preached about both the Holodomor and the Great Hunger in Ireland, and served a Panychyda for the victims of both.

Fr. Serge

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