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Originally Posted by Hetman Vygovsky
Actually, it isn't until now that "Russia" is giving attention to the Rusins and there was only support for their cause in some Orthodox Church circles before. While the Yanukovich government may be open to creation of an autonomous republic which I think is long overdue.

It is an interesting contrast to the Rusyn movement in the US which caught on first in western PA and Ohio among Byzantine Catholics and later among ACROD faithful. Recently it has garnered increased interest in ethnic Rusyns/Rusins from other Orthodox jurisdictions as well as they discover that their ancestors were never ethnically 'Russian'. (My favorite story is one from from the post War era when a couple of Rusnak vets were supposedly complaining at the "Russian" Club somewhere in the rustbelt to their buddies that the Russian soldiers they met in Germany were so stupid that they didn't understand 'ponashemu.' That one always makes me chuckle as in my mind I can hear my dad roaring in laughter recounting that one to Met. Nicholas in year's past!)

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Actually, all indications are that indeed Carpatho-Lemko-Ugro-Prjashev Rusins are indeed not only Russian, but a clear mix of several different types of Russians, but that all depends how one defines the word "Russian." The term was first used by the Little Russian brotherhoods under Polish occupation and later inaugurated in Imperial Russia after Southwestern Rus' had been reunited with the North after the Perejaslavl Pact. The impetus behind this identity was spurred on by the Russians of specifically Kiev and the Ukraine, scholars who came to dominate all strata of Imperial Russia and oversaw the linguistic reforms there. Indeed, even modern Literary Russian is their work, having as its principle influence the Middle Ruthenian of the Russian brotherhoods of Little Russia and the Rusin lands.

No, the impetus behind the Rusin awakening began with Dukhnovich and was russophile in origin, both "in the homeland" and "in the diaspora." Along with that came a strong drive to "return to the ancestral faith." This movement in North America has its beginnings with those who followed St. Alexis of Wilkes Barre and went on to found the OCA.

While in Austria during the same period, a programme of "ukrainization" was being implemented, for the "Rusin revival" was seen as seditious and "eventually leading to secessionist pro Tsarist tensions." Imperial Russia did indeed support the Rusin Awakening from its outset, BUT this programme of "Rusin Awakening" WAS ALSO SUPPORTED by the native "old Russian" brotherhoods such as those in Lvov who were eventually suppressed by the Austrian favored "Ukrainian" movement.

All too telling is that people like Ivan Franko in their correspondences and personal interactions referred to themselves as being of "Rusin" and not "Ukrainian" identity. While even Hrushevsky's "History of the Ukraine" was initially penned as "A History of Rus'." One need not even mention that Taras Schevchenko saw himself as being of "Rusin or Little Russian" ethnicity and that he wrote in his personal journals conspicuously in Literary Russian while noteables such as Mazeppa and Hetman Ivan Vygovsky used Literary Russian while the Brotherhoods of Kiev, Ostrogh, and Lvov also used Middle Ruthenian (a parent of Literary Russian) but none of them ever used Kotliarevsky's "mova." Answering the question "why?" will lead one to a new and correct understanding of the topic.

Now, there are those who posit the notion that Peter I is the father of modern Russian terminology "Russia" yet the work of the Russian brotherhoods in Polish occupied Rus' seems to indicate useage of that term or a variant of it beginning with the period following Lublin.

While Byzantine manuscripts always referred to Rus' as "Rosija," the mova word for Russia, from at least the ninth century.

So, yes, Virginia, Carpatho-Lemko-Ugro-Prjashev (All Rusins) are Russians.

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While the reasoning for the Rusin Awakening was the contact Rusins had with Imperial Russian troops who aided to put down the Hungarian Revolution in the 1840s. Conspicuously, it was found that the Russians "were our own people, speaking our own language with a different accent," and the first Rusin patriots saw the clear congruencies between their Middle Ruthenian and Literary Russian (As they were both based on the language of the SW Russian brotherhoods) to where they were comfortable in saying that in 15 minutes a conversion from Rusin to Literary Russian could be achieved by those schooled with the Literary Rusin of Dukhnovich. The Russian Brotherhoods did indeed plant a seed of a common Russian ethnos.

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