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DMD #363367 04/20/11 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Latin Catholic
It is true that the Byzantine Catholic metropolitan Church of Pittsburgh has been vacant since the death of Metropolitan Basil (Schott) in June 2010, but a vacancy of a year or more is not unusual when a bishop dies unexpectedly in office. Metropolitan Thomas (Dolinay) died in April 1993 and Metropolitan Judson (Procyk) was appointed in November 1994. Again, Metropolitan Judson died in April 2001 and Metropolitan Basil was appointed in May 2002 (source [catholic-hierarchy.org]). Given this track record, I wouldn't expect a new metropolitan before June this year at the earliest.

As for a "family reunion" of Kyivan Catholics, perhaps it might be a good idea, but this would have to be a decision of the Synod of Bishops of the Ukrainian Catholic Church and the Council of Hierarchs of the Byzantine Catholic Church (as well the Bishop of Mukachevo). As long as the metropolitan see of Pittsburgh is vacant, the Council of Hierarchs is without its head, and consequently no such important decision could be taken during the vacancy.

Not to quibble, but isn't the Byzantine Catholic Church in America considered 'sui juris'? If this is so, shouldn't they select a Bishop pursuant to the Canons and present the candidate to Rome for approval, as did the UGCC rather than wait for one to be 'appointed'? Forgive me if I am wrong, just wondering....
This is a good point and no quibble at all.

In current canon law (like it or not) there are different "levels" of sui iuris Churches.

Patriarchal churches elect their own patriarchs. The election is announced immediately and afterwards the new patriarch requests (and invariably receives) "ecclesiastical communion" from the Pope. An example of this is the recent election of the new Maronite Patriarch Béchara Boutros (Raï).

Major archiepiscopal churches elect their own major archbishops. The election, however, is only announced after it has been confirmed by the Pope. An example of this is the recent election of the new Ukrainian Archbishop Sviatoslav (Shevchuk). There is another election coming up very soon in the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church in India following the recent death of Archbishop Mar Varkey (Cardinal Vithayathil).

Metropolitan churches, such as the Byzantine Catholic Church in the United States, do not elect their own metropolitans. Instead, the Council of Hierarchs prepares a list of three names which is sent to Rome. In Rome, it is the Congregation for the Eastern Churches and ultimately the Pope who chooses the new Metropolitan. This, inevitably, takes time.

In other words, metropolitan churches are not fully self-governing in the same way as patriarchal and (to a slightly lesser extent) major archiepiscopal churches.

There is a very good study by Chorbishop John D. Faris entitled Eastern Catholic Churches: Constitution and Governance (Brooklyn, St. Maron [stmaron.org], 1992) which explains all this much better.

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Originally Posted by DMD
Not to quibble, but isn't the Byzantine Catholic Church in America considered 'sui juris'? If this is so, shouldn't they select a Bishop pursuant to the Canons and present the candidate to Rome for approval, as did the UGCC rather than wait for one to be 'appointed'? Forgive me if I am wrong, just wondering....

Yes. That's one of the many reason I favor Kyivan reunion.

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The head of the Byzantine Catholic Church in America is not a Major Archbishop and this means a different approach to replacing the Metropolitan.

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The head of the Byzantine Catholic Church in America is not a Major Archbishop and this means a different approach to replacing the Metropolitan.

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Exactly. That's what I just said smile

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I do understand our present situation. Our as in BCC. What I wonder is this, would we not be better off under at Eastern Catholic Patriarch?

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Perhaps the long-term goal should be the creation of an American Byzantine Catholic patriarchate?

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And may God have mercy on our souls!

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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
I think Dan was obviously referring to the Byzantine Metropolia.

Oh, dear. I'm not old enough for this to be happening . . .

That was my initial reaction, too, and then I looked to see if it was an old post, because . . . with the transfer of Bishop William and his replacement with Bishop Dino, I at some point added that Bishop Basil was installed at the same time--instead of having passed.

So since Bishop Basil succeeded, uhh, himself, the Pittsburgh see wasn't vacant, leading me to wonder who else could possibly consider merging with the Ukrainians . . .

*ouch*

Anyway, a merger in the US of the Ukrainians and the PM seems impractical and then some: the Ukrainians, as far as I can tell, are joyfully ethnic, while the PM now has a small Ruthenian minority, at least inthis part of the country.


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Originally Posted by Garajotsi
Remember the early bird get the worm!

The second mouse, however, gets the cheese!

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So, I guess we simply take our lumps and let it go at that. I understand.

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I personally see the Ruthenian Church as on the cusp of something wonderful. I pray our new Metropolitan will lead us into a new spring time of growth, Liturgical renewal, return to our Orthodox Traditions, the planting of new monastic communities, and support greater cooperation with our fellow Byzantines both Orthodox and Catholic.

Perhaps, I am too optimistic but I do believe and pray it happens!

Hopefully one day there will be greater unity within the various Greek Catholics jurisdictions in this country.


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Originally Posted by Nelson Chase
I personally see the Ruthenian Church as on the cusp of something wonderful. I pray our new Metropolitan will lead us into a new spring time of growth, Liturgical renewal, return to our Orthodox Traditions, the planting of new monastic communities, and support greater cooperation with our fellow Byzantines both Orthodox and Catholic.

Perhaps, I am too optimistic but I do believe and pray it happens!

Hopefully one day there will be greater unity within the various Greek Catholics jurisdictions in this country.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by carson daniel lauffer
Originally Posted by Nelson Chase
I personally see the Ruthenian Church as on the cusp of something wonderful. I pray our new Metropolitan will lead us into a new spring time of growth, Liturgical renewal, return to our Orthodox Traditions, the planting of new monastic communities, and support greater cooperation with our fellow Byzantines both Orthodox and Catholic.

Perhaps, I am too optimistic but I do believe and pray it happens!

Hopefully one day there will be greater unity within the various Greek Catholics jurisdictions in this country.

Thank you.
This is a wonderful vision for the future. Pray God it may come to pass.

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Originally Posted by Latin Catholic
Perhaps the long-term goal should be the creation of an American Byzantine Catholic patriarchate?

I was going to say "What are the prospects of the two metropolias merging and becoming a major archepiscopal church?" but your idea is even better. smile

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