www.byzcath.org Forums Mysteries: The Life of Worship Vespers, Matins & the Divine Liturgy The Revised Divine Liturgy Hymn Variants Included (& Excluded) in the RDL Book

My dear brothers & sisters:

Apologies if this topic has come up in the past, and please advise if similar questions / posts would be more appropriate under a different topic (eg. Kliros). Since its RDL related, I posted here. Please bear in mind that I'm still catching up to all of you, having been exposed to this well after the RDL introduction, and do appreciate the guidance and benefit of the group's experience and awareness.

I have had many questions from parishioners regarding the hymn variations that were included and excluded from the RDL book. The most prevalent one of late for some reason regards the Hymn of the Incarnation. I'm sure we all remember the first version of the melody included in the old green book, and many wonder why this often used, most familiar version was completely omitted. Questions regarding Cherubic Hymn variants are a close second.

That said, was any formal guidance ever given with respect to usage of alternate hymn versions after the RDL book was issued? I'm guessing that if latitude is permitted, we would be expected to adapt and adhere to the revised texts.

Again, apologies if this one has come up in the past (I did try to scan prior posts).

With thanks,
Joe

The old version was apparently an adaptation of the Galician original. The new version adheres much more strictly to the original. A previous comment: link

Another related issue: English Cherubic Hymn podoben

ps Quit apologizing and ask/comment away; repetition is the lifeblood of a forum.

ajk:

Thanks on all counts! The links back to prior posts in your responses were most helpful, as a number of other related questions I had in mind were addressed from quick glance at those posts as well. I just came to realize that our forum's search tool doesn't pick up anything older than one year, but I'm now pointed in the right direction (timeframe).

Wishing you the joys of this holy season,
Joe

Joe,

Actually, it does, but you have to play with it pretty much in yearly increments. Choose a term to search by and then blank the 'earlier than' timeframe option. On the 'older than' option, enter a number and select 'years' from the dropdown. I generally do it year by year - using '2' with 'years', for instance, will pretty much give you posts from 24 to 36 months old, in my experience. (Not sure why the software works this way, but it seems to.)

I recommend not limiting searches to a specific forum or subforum, as older posts in particular might be found elsewhere than where you'd expect.

Many years,

Neil

Thanks so much for that technology tip! Most helpful!

Not a problem, Joe. But, see if it works for you before you get too grateful (I've got the advantage of an incredible memory for who might have posted on a particular topic, even years back. I suspect that being able to enter a user name in the search function gives me a decided edge in searching.)

Many years,

Neil