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I know that some Orthodox saints are venerated in the Western Church, like St. Nektarios Kephalas and St. Gregory Palamas, as well as other Slavic saints; but what happens in the East?

Some orthodox churches strongly discourage the veneration of western saints like St. Francis of Asissi (who's popular among some Orthodox believers in the East). Do you think that the cannonization of Saint Stephen of Hungary will cause more orthodox cannonizations of Western saints???

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Do you think that the cannonization of Saint Stephen of Hungary will cause more orthodox cannonizations of Western saints???

Was St. Stephen actually canonized by the Orthodox or did the Ecumenical Patriarchate simply add his feast to the calendar? I thought it was the latter. I believe St. Stephen wasn't even officially canonized by the Roman Catholic Church since his cult started before the canonization process was implemented by Rome in the middle ages.

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Anthony's assumption is right. It was also done (of which some historical evidence exists, but they are pushing it to the limit) that St. Stephen was "eastern."

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St. Stephen respected both rites and according to some authors he was educated by Eastern Christians, but when he was crowned he was a Latin Christian.

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Where in the Western Church have you found devotion to St. Nectarios and St. Gregory Palamas, etc. ? I have yet to experience this.

Michael

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Remie:
[QB]I know that some Orthodox saints are venerated in the Western Church, like St. Nektarios Kephalas and St. Gregory Palamas, as well as other Slavic saints; but what happens in the East?

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Dear Michael,

Granted there are no official Novenas to Saint Gregory Palamas smile , he is still venerated in the Western Church...I think it just means that the Western Church recognises the fact that he's in heaven and is worthy of honour and invocation as a saint.

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Dear Friends,

Yes, both St Nectarios and St Gregory Palamas are now officially in the Roman Calendar of Saints.

Whether or not there is liturgical veneration to them is something that is not widespread in the West, but might eventually be.

Alex

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Saint Benedict is venerated by the Orthodox, I know a nun from Romania named Benedicta.

St. Martin of Tours is also venerated amoung the Orthodox.

If you can get your hands on a comprehensive calendar like the one published by St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood, (do they still publish it?) or use this online version, http://www.orthodox.net/
you can sometimes pick out Western saints.

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Dear Stefan-Ivan,

Excellent indeed, Friend in Christ!

The calendar published by the "Synod of Milan" or the St Hilarion Calendar has the most exhaustive listing of Saints anywhere.

And they divide it into two Rites, one Western,the other Eastern.

The Western Saints lists are longer (unfortunately, heh, heh).

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Alex:

In no Catholic text or calendar have I found any mention of St. Nectarios, who is a modern saint of the Greek Orthodox Church.

Where did you hear of this?

Michael

Yes, both St Nectarios and St Gregory Palamas are now officially in the Roman Calendar of Saints.

Whether or not there is liturgical veneration to them is something that is not widespread in the West, but might eventually be.

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Sts. Gregory Palamais and Basil the great are venerated on the new calender on January 2nd.

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Dear Joe,

The Roman Calendar as revised by the Second Vatican Council has on 2 January the feast of SS. Basil and Gregory, but this is not Saint Gregory Palamas, but Saint Gregory Nazianzus. Palamas (and for that matter none of the Orthodox saints the RCC recognises) doesn't make the General Roman Calendar, as found in my copies of the Latin Liturgy of the Hours and the post-Vatican II Roman Missal. If any changes have been made to the calendar, please let me know!

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Dear Sarum,

The Catholic calendars published for liturgical use are actually so "pruned back" in terms of the saints listed there that one may find calendars where even the most popular Latin Catholic saints are absent!

The Roman Church publishes her own universal calendar of saints that lists, exhaustively, the many, many saints and blessed she recognizes and liturgically venerates, including the many which have been added under the Pontificate of His Holiness Pope John Paul II.

You might try the online Catholic Saints calendar that does an excellent job of listing the Saints for each day of the year and doesn't do any "pruning."

That is where I found St Seraphim of Sarov, St Sergius of Radonezh (Serge come back, er, sorry)and St Gregory Palamas with their bios.

The reception of St Gregory Palamas into the Roman calendar occurred some years back, there was a media release etc.

The same happened when Meister Eckhart of the Dominicans had his excommunication lifted and studies proceed into his life and works with the view to his eventual beatification.

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Dear Sarum and Catholicos,

Here are some bios of Orthodox saints in a Catholic online calendar:

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saints/gregorypalamas.html

http://www.catholic.org/saints/saints/seraphimofsarov.html

http://www.catholic.or/saints/saints/sergiusofradonezh.html

There are others as well.

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"The reception of St Gregory Palamas into the Roman calendar occurred some years back, there was a media release etc."

Alex, if you can provide me with the link to any media source (press release, whatever) that reported this event, I would be eternally grateful.

I don't question what you said; I only would be delighted to see this in print before my eyes. (call it a buzz). I'd also like to flash the big news in front of some skeptics as well. <G> A genuine shocker for April Fools. The only "prank" that turns out not to be a joke.

....can you imagine the ramificatons?

In IC XC
Samer

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