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http://www.armenianchurchwd.com/news/primate-visits-the-armenian-church-of-ventura-county/

On March 8, 2009, His Eminence Archbishop Hovnan Derderian paid a pastoral visit to the Armenian Church of Ventura County, based in the City of Thousand Oaks. Upon the conclusion of the liturgy, the Primate performed the first baptism to be held at the newly established parish.

What about the celebration of Holy Baptism DURING Divine Liturgy? As far as I knew in the Armenian Church the same priest could not celebrate the same day the Divine Liturgy and the sacraments of Christian Initiation. Apparently this rubric is no more observed.

According to the ancient Typikon of Hagia Sophia the celebration of Baptism took place during the Old Testament readings of Holy And Great Saturday Vesperal Liturgy or before the celebration of the Divine Liturgy (Theophany, Pentecost, Lazarus Saturday). In the Roman Eastern Vigil (in its cassical form) the celebration of Baptism took also place after Old Testament readinds (after New Testament readings in Paul VI Roman Missal). The celebration of Baptism during Great Saturday Vesperal Liturgy or at the begining of the Divine Liturgy (before Small Entrance) is not unknown between Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Catholics.

What about our Oriental Orthodox brothers and sisters?

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http://www.armenianchurchwd.com/news/fathers-day-celebrations-at-st-john-garabed-in-hollywood/


The Parish of St. John Garabed Armenian Church in Hollywood was filled to capacity on Sunday, June 17, 2012 for the celebration of the Divine Liturgy by His Eminence Archbishop Hovnan Derderian, Primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church.

Considering the fact that a number of the community’s elderly have not had the opportunity to be baptized, His Eminence, with the assistance of Archpriest Fr. Manoug Markarian, Pastor of St. John Garabed and the Parish staff had organized a Mass Baptism ceremony which allowed for the baptism and chrismation of the community’s faithful. The sacrament of baptism, presided by the Primate, was officiated at the conclusion of the service prior to the singing of the Lord’s Prayer (Hayr Mer).

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I am not aware of any such rule in the Armenian Church. Can you cite a source please?

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I am a bit surprised by one sentence in the story.
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... Considering the fact that a number of the community’s elderly have not had the opportunity to be baptized ...

In the Armenian Church, is it required that the Bishop perform baptisms?

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Not at all. The Bishop wished to offer the sacrament on the occasion of his visit. Many, many people were unable to receive baptism during the Soviet Period. Huge mass baptisms were common after independence. Some people are still coming forward to request the sacrament twenty years later.

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Thank you for the clarification. This answer is what I expected, as I don't know of any Church where a priest cannot do baptisms.

I can see why the survivors of the soviet era would want to make aspecial occasion of the event. Sounds like a glorious occasion.


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