The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
Regf2, SomeInquirer, Wee Shuggie, Bodhi Zaffa, anaxios2022
5,881 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 262 guests, and 26 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Byzantine Nebraska
Byzantine Nebraska
by orthodoxsinner2, December 11
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,219
Posts415,299
Members5,881
Most Online3,380
Dec 29th, 2019
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
.

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
Quote
Originally posted by J Thur:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Churchwork:
[qb] Bottom line:
Satan is messing with your subconscious, and may I say the several here defending this teaching at byzcath seems as though you are drones, like zombies, possessed, and brainwashed, like you are in a matrix and you need to come out this coma, your deep sleep.
Dear Church krow,

You still didn't answer me about your bible idolatry or where I can find an authoritative list on which books belong in the Neewbie Testament, which Jesus NEVER quoted.

Don't run away when your advice thickens.

I knew some folks who lived in cults. They too quoted long pamphlets like zombies, possessed, and brainwashed.

You ruined by day by not answering my bible questions. Please help me. Lost folks like me just wanna know.

Why do you worship a book?

How do you know what books belong in the Newbie Testament when a list is never given in it?

Help!

Joe

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
I fear Church krow is flying away. I hope the wind doesn't blow away all his very important bible idolatry tracts.

God bless you, my friend. We didn't even get a chance to discuss the issues/questions that were bothering me. I am afraid that it might come to a point where I might just rip out the Newbie Testament since Jesus never quotes from it and it never gives me a list of books which are considered 'biblical' in nature. In fact, I might rip out every Newbie Testament 'book' written after Pentecost. This, I feel, is the only right thing to do since such books were written only to corrupt the Church.

Do you feel/think that the Church was doing a lot better without the Newbie Testament? OH! This is now my third question I need help on.

Joe

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
Troy

You said

Quote
Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected.
Gracious me Troy - you have me wondering here.

As I understand it Watchman Nee died in 1972 ish - the exact date this time is not needed. So how can he agree with you - or were you born long before this and met him ?

Should it not be more accurate to say that you agree with him ?

Anhelyna - who feels no different from the way she did earlier today

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 474
sam Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 474
"Should it not be more accurate to say that you agree with him ? "

I was thinking exactly the same thing. It reminds me of another quote No slave is better than his Master/No student is greater than his teacher/ No mortal is greater than his God, etc. etc. etc. It has something to do with humility, I think.
Sam

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,440
Z
Member
Offline
Member
Z
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,440
Quote
Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no
church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though
by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected.
Dear Churchwork,

Has it ever occurred to you, that our Lord might have created human beings in such a way, that we require a hierarchal system?

Also how can you be so sure that you are being enlightened by the Holy Spirit? There are other 'spirits' you know. After all, some people are led by spirits of dissension...such as Luther.

Isn't the Holy Spirit a Spirit of Love? Without this 'Love' and the humility that comes with it, can we truly have discernment?

Zenovia

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
C
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
Obviously there is no love in popery because it exceeds the authority and submission set up in the church.

The only reason you can't see this is because you have been blinded not by God, but by man's traditions.

If the Word of God is consistent on a matter, and you change it beyond what God calls for in His Word then you sin, even a sin unto death.

This is a very couthful spirit denying God's heirarchy of informal apostles setting up church locality.

You reall ought to read this,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/localcharacter.htm

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 644
Cantor
Member
Offline
Cantor
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 644
Quote
Originally posted by Churchwork:
Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected.

http://w
Troy,

I am so glad to see that a man who PRECEEDED you has agreed with you who have read his works after his death! WOW, by that logic I take it then that St. Paul agrees with me though he preceeded me by just a few years because I agree with his teachings that i have read only in my lifetime. SUch Self importance! Such pride! Satan would indeed be proud of such claims!

Why is St. Paul such an inspiration to so many? Probably because he was one who spent so much of his early life trying to put DOWN the followers of Christ, and later converted and later made amends. Many of us have been in that same pattern. Paul realized his prideful nature and repented. Therefore, Troy, I shall now call you Saul as Paul was prior to his conversion.

So,

Without reference to Nee (who agrees with you from the past) and without references to the Bible (any version), can you explain your religious views (in your own words) to this heathen, who is admittedly a sinner before the Lord?

I'm serious,

Steve

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
C
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
Quote
Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love:
Troy

You said

Quote
Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected.
Gracious me Troy - you have me wondering here.

As I understand it Watchman Nee died in 1972 ish - the exact date this time is not needed. So how can he agree with you - or were you born long before this and met him ?

Should it not be more accurate to say that [b]you
agree with him ?

Anhelyna - who feels no different from the way she did earlier today [/b]
He agrees with me as more than evident in his wrtings. If you cared to observe this fact you would admit there is no difference.

You can say I agree with Nee and Nee agrees with me. If two people agree I am not familiar with the spirit of dissension that needs to argue over who agrees with who in the petty self?

There is too much that petty self here at byzcath stemming from trying to defend false locality, obviously amongst the other false teachigns of the great harlot of religous Rome, but praise the Lord God will destroy your system when He returns as promised in Rev. 17 and 18. Now that is love.

Let us heed the authority and submission God's kindgom instead of relying on man's traditional corporation style systems trying to copy the model of commercialism. The Church sets itself apart from this.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Authority.htm

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
O
Member
Offline
Member
O
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,586
Likes: 1
Quote
Originally posted by Churchwork:
[..... He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17,
.....There is too much that petty self here at byzcath stemming from trying to defend false locality, obviously amongst the other false teachigns of the great harlot of religous Rome, but praise the Lord God will destroy your system when He returns as promised in Rev. 17 and 18. Now that is love.
Troy - here you go again using that phrase that our beloved Admin has requested you NOT to use here.

We prefer to be loving towards our posters and treat them kindly.

When will you learn that you influence more people by being gentle and loving to them, than you do when you bash them on the head. Yes when you stop that the acute pain goes away - but you leave them in such a state that they cannot take in what you are trying to say in your most convoluted fashion.

Please please give us a break - allow our brains to become unfuddled and let us sort out our thoughts.

Prayers for you

Anhelyna

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
C
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 80
It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart.

See for yourself. Read to know it.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_17.htm

It is also the church of Thyatira. Read to know it is so.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm

If what I have not said is true then you will be able to find fault in what is in these two links.

Isn't that amazing that the Word of God would predict denominationalism? Wow!

Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 644
Cantor
Member
Offline
Cantor
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 644
Quote
Originally posted by Churchwork:
It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart.
Wow!
And perhaps you are the 'great harlot' of evangelism on the internet.

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 407
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 407
Many people often have difficulty in understanding prelest.

So I think that it might be profitable if we post these threads of Troy's in the dictionary next to the word prelest.

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 474
sam Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 474
Troy,
Watchman Nee attempted to live a Christ-like life.
Do you claim to be Christ-like as well?
Sam

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,960
Quote
Originally posted by Churchwork:
It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart.

See for yourself. Read to know it.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_17.htm

It is also the church of Thyatira. Read to know it is so.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm

If what I have not said is true then you will be able to find fault in what is in these two links.

Isn't that amazing that the Word of God would predict denominationalism? Wow!
Church Krow,

Where can I find in your Bible a list of books considered Newbie Testament Scripture?

How do you know they are Scripture? If the Bible didn't tell you so, then who?

Does your Bible have the Gospel of Anaximander in it too?

Please help me with this question of mine.

Joe

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Alice, Father Deacon Ed, theophan 

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2022 (Forum 1998-2022). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5