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Originally posted by J Thur: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Churchwork: [qb] Bottom line: Satan is messing with your subconscious, and may I say the several here defending this teaching at byzcath seems as though you are drones, like zombies, possessed, and brainwashed, like you are in a matrix and you need to come out this coma, your deep sleep.
Dear Church krow, You still didn't answer me about your bible idolatry or where I can find an authoritative list on which books belong in the Neewbie Testament, which Jesus NEVER quoted. Don't run away when your advice thickens. I knew some folks who lived in cults. They too quoted long pamphlets like zombies, possessed, and brainwashed. You ruined by day by not answering my bible questions. Please help me. Lost folks like me just wanna know. Why do you worship a book? How do you know what books belong in the Newbie Testament when a list is never given in it? Help! Joe
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I fear Church krow is flying away. I hope the wind doesn't blow away all his very important bible idolatry tracts.
God bless you, my friend. We didn't even get a chance to discuss the issues/questions that were bothering me. I am afraid that it might come to a point where I might just rip out the Newbie Testament since Jesus never quotes from it and it never gives me a list of books which are considered 'biblical' in nature. In fact, I might rip out every Newbie Testament 'book' written after Pentecost. This, I feel, is the only right thing to do since such books were written only to corrupt the Church.
Do you feel/think that the Church was doing a lot better without the Newbie Testament? OH! This is now my third question I need help on.
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Troy You said Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected. Gracious me Troy - you have me wondering here. As I understand it Watchman Nee died in 1972 ish - the exact date this time is not needed. So how can he agree with you - or were you born long before this and met him ? Should it not be more accurate to say that you agree with him ? Anhelyna - who feels no different from the way she did earlier today
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"Should it not be more accurate to say that you agree with him ? "
I was thinking exactly the same thing. It reminds me of another quote No slave is better than his Master/No student is greater than his teacher/ No mortal is greater than his God, etc. etc. etc. It has something to do with humility, I think. Sam
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Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected. Dear Churchwork, Has it ever occurred to you, that our Lord might have created human beings in such a way, that we require a hierarchal system? Also how can you be so sure that you are being enlightened by the Holy Spirit? There are other 'spirits' you know. After all, some people are led by spirits of dissension...such as Luther. Isn't the Holy Spirit a Spirit of Love? Without this 'Love' and the humility that comes with it, can we truly have discernment? Zenovia
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Obviously there is no love in popery because it exceeds the authority and submission set up in the church. The only reason you can't see this is because you have been blinded not by God, but by man's traditions. If the Word of God is consistent on a matter, and you change it beyond what God calls for in His Word then you sin, even a sin unto death. This is a very couthful spirit denying God's heirarchy of informal apostles setting up church locality. You reall ought to read this, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/localcharacter.htm
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Originally posted by Churchwork: Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected.
http://w Troy, I am so glad to see that a man who PRECEEDED you has agreed with you who have read his works after his death! WOW, by that logic I take it then that St. Paul agrees with me though he preceeded me by just a few years because I agree with his teachings that i have read only in my lifetime. SUch Self importance! Such pride! Satan would indeed be proud of such claims! Why is St. Paul such an inspiration to so many? Probably because he was one who spent so much of his early life trying to put DOWN the followers of Christ, and later converted and later made amends. Many of us have been in that same pattern. Paul realized his prideful nature and repented. Therefore, Troy, I shall now call you Saul as Paul was prior to his conversion. So, Without reference to Nee (who agrees with you from the past) and without references to the Bible (any version), can you explain your religious views (in your own words) to this heathen, who is admittedly a sinner before the Lord? I'm serious, Steve
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Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love: Troy
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Watchman Nee agrees with me for he saw by the Holy Spirit in the Word of God no church in corporation style structures or mother churches, etc. He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, but that is expected. Gracious me Troy - you have me wondering here.
As I understand it Watchman Nee died in 1972 ish - the exact date this time is not needed. So how can he agree with you - or were you born long before this and met him ?
Should it not be more accurate to say that [b]you agree with him ? Anhelyna - who feels no different from the way she did earlier today [/b] He agrees with me as more than evident in his wrtings. If you cared to observe this fact you would admit there is no difference. You can say I agree with Nee and Nee agrees with me. If two people agree I am not familiar with the spirit of dissension that needs to argue over who agrees with who in the petty self? There is too much that petty self here at byzcath stemming from trying to defend false locality, obviously amongst the other false teachigns of the great harlot of religous Rome, but praise the Lord God will destroy your system when He returns as promised in Rev. 17 and 18. Now that is love. Let us heed the authority and submission God's kindgom instead of relying on man's traditional corporation style systems trying to copy the model of commercialism. The Church sets itself apart from this. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Authority.htm
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Originally posted by Churchwork: [..... He is accused though by the adherents of religious Rome of the great harlot, Rev. 17, .....There is too much that petty self here at byzcath stemming from trying to defend false locality, obviously amongst the other false teachigns of the great harlot of religous Rome, but praise the Lord God will destroy your system when He returns as promised in Rev. 17 and 18. Now that is love. Troy - here you go again using that phrase that our beloved Admin has requested you NOT to use here. We prefer to be loving towards our posters and treat them kindly. When will you learn that you influence more people by being gentle and loving to them, than you do when you bash them on the head. Yes when you stop that the acute pain goes away - but you leave them in such a state that they cannot take in what you are trying to say in your most convoluted fashion. Please please give us a break - allow our brains to become unfuddled and let us sort out our thoughts. Prayers for you Anhelyna
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It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart. See for yourself. Read to know it. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_17.htm It is also the church of Thyatira. Read to know it is so. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm If what I have not said is true then you will be able to find fault in what is in these two links. Isn't that amazing that the Word of God would predict denominationalism? Wow!
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Originally posted by Churchwork: It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart. Wow! And perhaps you are the 'great harlot' of evangelism on the internet.
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Many people often have difficulty in understanding prelest.
So I think that it might be profitable if we post these threads of Troy's in the dictionary next to the word prelest.
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Troy, Watchman Nee attempted to live a Christ-like life. Do you claim to be Christ-like as well? Sam
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Originally posted by Churchwork: It is the great harlot of religious Rome. Accept that fact for when you do it softens your heart.
See for yourself. Read to know it. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Revelation_17.htm
It is also the church of Thyatira. Read to know it is so. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm
If what I have not said is true then you will be able to find fault in what is in these two links.
Isn't that amazing that the Word of God would predict denominationalism? Wow! Church Krow, Where can I find in your Bible a list of books considered Newbie Testament Scripture? How do you know they are Scripture? If the Bible didn't tell you so, then who? Does your Bible have the Gospel of Anaximander in it too? Please help me with this question of mine. Joe
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