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on certain sundays when the byzantine calender says to have the liturgy of saint basil, my parish doesnt and just have the divine liturgy of saint john chrysostom, in this optional for byzantine churches?

I think it's optional, if your parish priest doesn't have a byzantine calendar.
Lauro

I remember a decree from Archbishop Joseph (Tawil) of Newton stressing, not merely that the Divine Liturgy of Saint Basil is NOT optional on the days when it is appointed, but that priests who are required to serve more than once on such days for pastoral reasons are required to serve the Divine Liturgy of Saint Basil each time!
Incognitus

Mateusz, most of the congregational responses are the same as for the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, with the primary exception of the hymn to the Theotokos "O Tebi" "In You, O Full of Grace" which replaces the usual "It is truly proper" "Dostoyno Yest".

Are you sure they are just having the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom? The primary difference between the two Liturgies is in the Anaphora prayers of the priest and if he takes these silently it is often not very apparent externally with the exception of the congregation singing "O Tebi".

I'm looking for the sentence(s) that lead up to the following phrase, which comes from one of the priest's prayers in the St. Basil Liturgy. "....... making us children of light and children of the day."

TIA

yes my parish still does the divine liturgy of saint john chrysostom. i know they r rather similar, but i just was wondering what was the norm considering this.

At our mission church, including the singing of "In You, O Woman" (in place of "It is truly proper..."), we sing "The Typica" and "The Beatitudes" in place of the Sunday Antiphons. (This is also done during the Christmas Fast, and I've heard of it being done during the Dormition and Apostles' Fast although we don't do it.)

At Holy Trinity Byzantine Catholic Church in Wall, PA the Liturgy of St. Basil is usually taken on Sunday mornings during the Great Fast. The majority of the liturgy is sung in Church Slavonic and follows The Plainchant (blue) booklet printed at the seminary. The main differences are a few parish melodies, including The Typica and "O Tebi ..." which have been passed down from the cantor who led the congregration over fifty years ago. The church recently celebrated it's seventy-fifth anniversary.

Mateuz, the "norm" according to the Typikon is to celebrate the Liturgy of St. Basil on the first five Sundays of the Great Fast, not the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.

moncobyz-
The prayer that you are referring to is recited by the priest prior to the litany that precedes the Our Father. The prayer concludes:
By the power of the Holy Spirit, prevent schism in the Church, restrain the raging of nations, and quickly destroy the upsurges of heresy. Receive us all into your kingdom, making us children of light and children of the day. Grant us your peace and love, O lord our God, for You have given all things to us.
-Byzantine Book of Prayer

Deacon James Sofalvi

The simplest way to answer this question is to ask you another one: is your parish run by Basilians? If you answer "Yes," the that is also the answer to your question about the liturgy. They tend to regard most Eastern traditions as optional and therefore disposable, especially at this time of year, when they can't even be roused--whether by papal decree (eg., Orientale Lumen or the 1996 Liturgical Instuction), their superiors and bishops, or the demands of their own faithful--to follow elementary liturgical norms (like not "saying Mass" on the weekdays of the Great Fast). But then the Basilians, as a real Greek Catholic priest I know likes to put it, run their parishes like a separate rite. (Around here we call it the Basilian Special

i am not really sure..we have just one parish priest, and we never have the divine liturgy of saint basil the great

This is a bit off-topic, but Adam's post touched on a point that I've often considered addressing, so ...

It's become pretty obvious over time that the Ukrainian Basilians aren't the favorite religious community of the Ukrainian faithful. Just for the record though, for the benefit of those here who are new to Eastern Catholicism or know no better, I'd like to emphasize that there are Basilians other than those of the UGCC.

We (Melkites) have 3 Basilian orders - the Basilian Salvatorians, Chouerites, and Alleppians. And, contrary to the apparent experience of my Ukrainian sisters and brothers with their Basilians, ours have a long and honorable tradition of service to our Church.

It was (and still is) not uncommon to hear our people speak of the pastoral and people skills of the Basilians (particularly in parishes that have, historically, been served by our monks) - often unfavorably (and sometimes unfairly)contrasting the same qualities in our eparchial presbyterate. The latter stereotypification is now much less common, thankfully. (My personal observation is that the preference of a parish for Basilians was a function of parochialism. It generally reflected the town/village from which the faithful of a parish originated and the source of their pastoral care back at home - in this case, familiarity bred comfort rather than contempt. That parishes long tended to be solely in the care of one or the other, religious or secular clergy, certainly contributed to the attitudes.)

Frankly, our Church's establishment and growth on this continent are, in significant measure, attributable to our Basilians. Without searching through parish histories, I'd estimate that half of our early parishes were established by Basilians. Our first Exarch, Justin (Najmy), of blessed memory, was a Basilian Chouerite; our second Eparch, Ignatius (Ghattas), of blessed memory, was a Basilian Salvatorian, as is our current Eparch, Bishop John (Elya). I believe all of our Canadian Eparchs have been Salvatorians. For almost 2 decades prior to establishment of our eparchial seminary, the Basilian Salvatorians operated the sole Melkite seminary in the US, training both their own and many secular clergy.

Anyway, just an observation on the side of Saint Basil's sons - at least ours

Many years,

Neil

moncobyz:

The prayer you are asking about is as follows: Edward, deacon and sinner

That is amusing. One would think that the Basilians would want to celebrate the Liturgy of Saint Basil!

Dave