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Dear Snoopers,

Well, apart from the modern phenomenon of women priests, the traditional Anglican/Episcopal Churches can be as "Catholic" if not even moreso than the Roman Church.

I sometimes attend a local Anglican Church here that is very "High" as a member of our local monarchist league.

The Canon there not only has images, processions, the Rosary, Stations of the Cross, Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament etc., he also commemorates the Pope ahead of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

During their High Mass, the Subdeacon and Deacon stand on descending steps immediately behind the Priest etc.

I think Orthodox would feel more "at home" in that kind of environment than even the Novus Ordo Catholic one.

Alex

OrthodoxCatholic<<I think Orthodox would feel more "at home" in that kind of environment than even the Novus Ordo Catholic one.>>

Alex, I don't know which Eastern Orthodox Catholics--NOT in communion with Rome-- you've been talking too, but I don't know of any (myself included) that would feel comfortable in an Anglican worship environment, Anglo-Catholic or not. I know of too many Anglicans who reject basic Christian beliefs such as the bodily Resurrection of Christ or even Jesus' divinity, and some of these are Anglican/Episcopal bishops! Anglicans come across to me as very Protestant in belief, no matter how High Church "Catholic" they might be in worship. At least when I pray with Catholics, whether or not Novus Ordo, I know they don't compromise belief in the Eucharist as the Body and Blood of Christ.

OrthodoxEast

Well, I know many Anglicans who believe in all the Apostolic Christian doctrines of the Holy Councils. I think it is really a myth of the "sceptical" Anglican. It is the media hype over people like Spong, Matthew Fox and others that obscure the fact that there are small o, Orthodox believing Anglicans just going about their Christian lives worshipping God and serving His people. Let's not be SO hard on the Anglican people who come from a great tradition!

Dear OrthodoxEast,

Well, I've come across Roman Catholics who have similar doubts as you've enumerated. It all depends.

And not all Orthodox Christians are as "traditional" as they generally make themselves out to be when it comes to matters of faith either - although, as far as Apostolic Churches go, they are the most traditional.

The Anglo-Catholics, the members of the Anglican Continuing Churches, the Anglican Catholics and others of that ilk that I know and whose writings I've read are as Catholic as "all get out."

They oppose novelties in the Church, they will often leave their Anglican communion to set up independent groups, or else join with RCism or Orthodoxy's Western Rites - when pushed to the limit.

The Anglicans you mention are not of the High Church variety at all. Clearly, historic Orthodox discussions with Anglicans and Old Catholics make it clear that Orthodoxy itself does not agree with your estimation of them.

As you know, there are three types of Anglicans: "Low and lazy," "Middle and hazy," and "High and crazy."

I make it a matter of personal habit to hang out only with the third kind.

Alex

Dear Alex:


Are you required to ingest LSD or other hallucinogens to "belong" to the "High and Crazy?"

AmdG

Dear Amado,

In my case, it all comes quite naturally, thank you very much . . .

Alex

OrthodoxCatholic<<The Anglicans you mention are not of the High Church variety at all. Clearly, historic Orthodox discussions with Anglicans and Old Catholics make it clear that Orthodoxy itself does not agree with your estimation of them.

As you know, there are three types of Anglicans: "Low and lazy," "Middle and hazy," and "High and crazy.">>

Yes, Alex, and all of the above are in full communion with the other in the inclusiveness that is the hallmark and pride of Anglicanism. (Thanks, but no thanks!)

OrthodoxEast

As to Catholic godparents of non-Catholics, whatever happened to submitting one's own will to the Will of the Church? Helps to fight off the sins of disobedience and hubris IMHO, and helps us to realize that we are not the final authority in these types of matters, and neither is a heterodox priest.

Logos Teen