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Dear Friends,
With apologies, I meant to say above "The Liturgy of the Eucharist."
I guess I should be shown the doors myself . . .
Alex
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Originally posted by byzanTN: The first time I read the phrase, "the doors, the doors," the first thing that went through my deranged mind was "the windows, the windows." It read like a poor translation of dialogue from a bad opera.  I understand the meaning, and some of the posts here have added more knowledge to my understanding of it. It has been dropped from our Byzantine Liturgy, although it is still printed in the books. I suspect many may not even know what it means anymore. I am going to keep the explanations posted here to share with others when the subject comes up again. Yes, our deacons dropped it several months ago. It makes me sad. I shall ask Father why. Dan L
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Originally posted by Dan Lauffer: Originally posted by byzanTN: [b] The first time I read the phrase, "the doors, the doors," the first thing that went through my deranged mind was "the windows, the windows." It read like a poor translation of dialogue from a bad opera. I understand the meaning, and some of the posts here have added more knowledge to my understanding of it. It has been dropped from our Byzantine Liturgy, although it is still printed in the books. I suspect many may not even know what it means anymore. I am going to keep the explanations posted here to share with others when the subject comes up again.
Dan L [/b]Dan L It's not part of the "new" translation. It was dropped in Passaic years ago.
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Dear Friends,
Gosh, but you Ruthenians are going down a slippery slope here!
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Friends,
Gosh, but you Ruthenians are going down a slippery slope here!
Alex Yep. Next we will have gay marriage. :p
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Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor
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For what it's worth, it is still very much in the Divine Liturgy in the Ukrainian Catholic Church.
Strangely, in the church I have been attending, the entire service is sung except when the priest (the deacon has to double in the choir) speaks, not sings, "The doors! The doors!..."
Another point - in my admittedly brief experiences in the Eastern Rite, I have been repeatedly told that Catholics of the Roman Rite may fulfill their Holy Obligation by attending an Eastern Rite service, and vice versa, as part of the concept of the "one holy catholic and apostolic church".
Even though the exclusion of catechumens is largely a point of ritual now, would it not then be illogical to exclude Roman Catholics, inasmuch as they have already been catechized?
Can you tell all of my education including graduate school has been in Catholic institutions? I can debate the number of angels that can fit on a pin with the best of them.
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I can remember in years gone by, it may be still the norm... but in the Latin Church the RCIA folk left Mass after the Liturgy of the Word.
I think it adds to the longing of being able to participate in receiving the Eucharist.
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The RCIA folks still leave at that point. But at the RC church where I play, they all come to the same mass and leave as a group. They go downstairs and study scripture and church related subjects.
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