www.byzcath.org Forums Faith & Christian Life Faith & Theology See this forum the way it was in the past!!

Wow! Using the old archive, one can see how Byzcath.org and many other sites looked in the past... the memories! sniffle, sniffle!

www.archive.org [archive.org] type in the website, and look around. Maybe some of the threads that got deleted from byzcath during the crash are still in existence here...

It's still fun to see the old color layouts, etc! For example... http://web.archive.org/web/19991011095344/www.byzcath.org/cgibin/Ultimate.cgi

anastasios

If after looking at the archives you long to be on a Byzantine forum like this one used to be contact me by email. Better, contact Anastosios by email. This is not the open board that it used to be. If you want an option check with one of us. I'm sure that many of you would be more comfortable staying here, and we welcome you to stay here.

Dan Lauffer

Dear Anastasios and Dan,

First of all, the idea that this board is not as "open" as some would like it to be is, well, nonsense. At least in my view.

But if "openness" is what we want, how is the board you are recommending more "open?"

I visited it and there is one page there where you have to be screened and approved in advance before you can participate in the discussions.

Yes, that is an Orthodox site. But let's get real, guys!

Openness? How so?

Alex

[But if "openness" is what we want, how is the board you are recommending more "open?"
I visited it and there is one page there where you have to be screened and approved in advance before you can participate in the discussions.
Yes, that is an Orthodox site. But let's get real, guys!
Openness? How so?]

As a member of both this board and the new Orthodox board I will continue to post on both as long as I am welcome. Becaue both boards serve a purpose.

Regarding the page you refer to Alex...I have been asked and agreed to be the moderator. First off, try and post and see if you will be hindered in any way. Of if you have to be approved before submitting before you complain.

The purpose of the board is to discuss issues involving the Orthodox Church. Unfortunately a moderator is needed to oversee what some times happens which is jurisdiction infighting. There are plenty of other folders created on the site for any type of discussion needed. Including a no holes barred.

The orthodox Only folder is not the entire board. Only one part of it.

Dear Orthoman,

Somehow I knew I would be hearing from you!

I know that your section is only one section.

I was just taken aback that I couldn't participate in it unless I was either Orthodox or soon to become Orthodox.

Do I have that correctly? If so, my complaint stands.

If not, I apologise.

On this board, everyone is free to participate regardless of their religious convictions, Orthodox, Catholic, Muslim, what have you.

And I was responding to the charge made publicly here that this Board is not as open as it was.

By comparison with the Board you and your compatriots have, this is still a more open board.

I was just making the point of comparison to defend this Board which I have come to regard as my Board.

That's not complaining. That's just the way it is.

Alex

[ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Orthodox Catholic ]

Chill out Alex. I wasn't trying to recommend any other board. I just thought the website was cool.

anastasios

[I was just taken aback that I couldn't participate in it unless I was either Orthodox or soon to become Orthodox.
Do I have that correctly? If so, my complaint stands.]

Alex: No you do not have it correctly. However, it is very easy to see how you could come to that conclusion the way it was worded. That is why I requested it to be modified which has been done.
You know we Orthodox love to argue amongst ourselves. Its unfortuante but true. As the moderator it gives me the authority to delete any slanderous or jurisdictional insults as I see fit.
Two of my pet peeves have been recognized by the originators of the boards. The first is jurisdictional infighting which drives me nuts. And the second is when nationalism takes priority over religion and God where the church is concerned. I'm not anti Ukrainian but anti nationalism when it put before Christ and his church. You think I'm hard on you Ukies! You should see me with the Greeks and they're Orthoox!
I see it as coming into the church and putting Christ in the attic only to be brought out for holidays. Nationalism is OK as long as its put in its proper place and isn't put above God in importance.

OrthoMan

P.S. Regarding your and Ality's post on the St Sophia's Cathedral. I will stick to my withdrawal of the questions to get the thread back on track.
I will answer both your posts if it is put in its proper place within the board.

Dear Anastasios,

I have no need to chill out, since I wasn't hot and bothered to begin with!

I was just raising a point in response to the notion that this Board is something less than your new one.

If you don't share that view, then more power to you, Academician!

Don't get upset just because someone said something disagreeable.

You'll be meeting more people like me at St Vlad's and throughout your future career.

Alex

Dear Orthoman,

So you are against nationalism when it is put ahead of God and Christ, are you?

I agree!

I would watch out with those Greeks, mind you.

We Ukies have a tradition of being scared off by a shaking of a stick.

The Greeks can be downright ferocious!

As for the St Sophia issue, I certainly have no interest in promoting infighting between Orthodox and Eastern Catholics.

If your point is to point out the weakness of the Ukies in this or that respect, I have no quarrel with that.

If (and I mean "if") you want to harp on why we're Catholic etc., well, then you'll just have to learn to accept us as we are, or not.

And I am not here to tell you how you should or should be moderating your new board.

Again, I was only defending this Board against any notion of it not being open to all.

That the Administrator insists on standards of discourse here is only being responsible.

Alex

Oh Alex, I'm warming up to you... ha ha! :-)

anastasios

Dear Anastasios,

Whenever you need texts in your studies, you might try posting requests here.

I for one would be willing to mail you a book or two, just to help defray costs.

Our goal at this Forum is to support you in becoming a theology professor and, if you like, a priest, in any way we can.

(Not all Forums do that, you know . . .)

Alex

[Again, I was only defending this Board against any notion of it not being open to all.
That the Administrator insists on standards of discourse here is only being responsible.]

As will I Alex. It is still one of the best boards there are. I will not only support it but defend it if necessary.

OrthoMan

You da Man!

You da Orthoman!

Congratulations on your moderatorship on the new board.

Alex

There are many excellent messageboards available on MSN and Yahoo! Groups, a sizable number focusing on Eastern Christianity. There are also several unmoderated messageboards created by participants on this forum that readers may be interested in checking out:

Joe Zollars has one at: http://communities.msn.com/EasternChristianity/home.htm
Nik Stanosheck has one at: http://www.yourcatholic.com
Serge has one at http://www.oldworldrus.com
Mor Ephrem, Anastasios, OrthMan and others have one at: http://www.byzantines.org

We wish them the best as they strive to witness Christ to the world.

Dear Friends,

I second the Administrator's post!

But after you've tried the rest, come back here to the best!

Alex