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Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory to Him Forever! Even when I was VERY Roman Catholic, in the back of my mind I thought the annulment process was a little hypocritical. I mean you can't just say a marriage never existed if it goes wrong. Try doing that to children who turn bad  . Adam
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Alex,
I'm sorry I didn't explain my take on the situation. Yes (absolutely), like any rational person, I think the annulment process in North America especially is a joke and is demeaning to the sacrament of marriage in general. I support decrees of nullity in theory, but I think that in practice they have become FAR too common. This is obvious from the simple fact that those who attempt at a decree of nullity rarely are rejected.
Basically, I think the process has run amuck, and I'm sure there are those who are sacramentally married but think they aren't because of a civil divorce and a decree of nullity. Annulments are not infallible; just because a bishop grants a decree of nullity doesn't mean the marriage never was, it means that, from what the bishop and the overseers can tell, the marriage never existed. I think bishops need to take their jobs seriously and REALLY think about the situation with regard to annulments. If I were a bishop, I can promise you I wouldn't be handing out annulments as if they were nickels and dimes.
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Does anyone know how many interfaith marriages are in the total number for the decrees of nullity that are handed out?
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Originally posted by ChristTeen287:
"Annulment" is really an inaccurate term for what is properly termed a "decree of nullity" (the official name). The former word implies that a sacramental bond existed and was afterwards done away with, which is certainly not the case. The latter implies that there never was a sacrament in the first place, thus a declaration of the nullity/non-existence of the supposed sacrament.
ChristTeen287 ChristTeen you are far beyond your years....
Abba Isidore the Priest:
When I was younger and remained in my cell I set no limit to prayer; the night was for me as much the time of prayer as the day.
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I'm offering responses to earlier contributions in this subforum:
(a) Theosis regarding "not given in marriage." The words mean just that: Persons do not marry in heaven, but that does not exclude existence and recognition of the marriages conducted prior to the resurrection.
(b) Orthodox Catholic regarding remarriage of widows not being penitential. In the Eastern Orthodox Church if an Orthodox partner in a marriage is being married for the first time, then the service is celebrated as a non-penitential first wedding. If both partners are Orthodox and are on a second/third marriage, regardless of whether their first marriage ended as a result of death or divorce of the first spouse, then the second/third marriage is penitential. If the non-Orthodox partner is on their first marriage but the Orthodox partner is on their second/third marriage, regardless of disposition of the first marriage, then the service is a penitential one.
Enjoying the discussion.
With love in Christ,
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Dear Andrew, Yes, in terms of the marriage service itself, it is "penitential." But if anyone, after a first marriage, hasn't learned their lesson yet, and wants to contract a further marriage, they deserve to get penance!  In my Church, second marriages of widows etc. are like the first. I apologise, but we are Latinized Uniates, far away from the Light of true Orthodoxy! Alex
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory to Him Forever! Thanks, Andrew . Adam
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