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From these forums, my understanding is that the Eastern Catholic Churches outside of the traditional boundaries of their respective Patriarchs are under the direct pastoral care of the Church of Rome. Thus, my understanding is that the Roman Church names the bishops for the Eastern Catholic Churches in America.

This situation led me to the following question: Who sanctifies the Holy Chrism used by the Eastern Catholic Churches in America? I have assumed that the respective Patriarch sanctifies the Holy Chrism. However, it is not unreasonable to suggest that because of the situation of the Eastern Catholic Churches in America, the Pope of Rome may be charged with sanctifying the Holy Chrism. I have not been able to locate an answer to this question. Any responses would be appreciated.

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For the Melkites, our myron/chrism is sanctified by our Patriarch, Gregory III.

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Fr. Deacon Ed,

Are you coming South for the convention?

A good opportunity to visit B'ham biggrin The Church is abuzz like a bee hive. Sat. we are making falafel and something else for the convention.

We actually have a website for the church now, of course it is more convention oriented for now, but I am sure it will become a web site for the Church proper after convention. http://www.saintgeorgeonline.org/index-1.html

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The Roman Church does not appoint anyones Bishops. The Pope of Rome after consultation with the Hierarchy of the relevant particular Church, appoints bishops outside the territory of the relevant Patriarchate, or Major Archdiocese. The Pope does not provide the Oils for other diocese (a possbile exception may be the Exarchate of Grottaferrata where the Abbot is not a Bishop).

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Since Byzantine Chrism and Latin Chrism are not the same - and one can tell the difference with one's eyes closed - I would take it for granted that the Monastery at Grottaferratta obtains the Holy Chrism from a Greek-Catholic source - probably the Greek-Catholic Patriarch of Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem and all the East.

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In the Pittsburgh Metropolia, where the Pope does appoint the bishops, the Metropolitan blesses the chrism.


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I thought the Pope might do the oils for GF as their Metropolitan. I had not thought they might try elsewhere.

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This is not really on the subject but I remember speaking to Vladyka Andrei Katkoff, M.I.C., ordaining Prelate for the Byzantine Catholics in Rome about the Holy Chrism he used to consecrate his antimensia. In the course of years he collected chrism from many visiting hierarchs who came to Rome. Some were Eastern Catholic and some were from the Orthodox Churches. He placed all these together and used this mixed Holy Chrism to consecrate the antimins. He felt that this was a sort of ecumenical gesture. I kinda like the idea. The Sacred Relics he used were from the Holy Apostle Andrew. May Vladyka Andrei's memory be eternal!
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Fr. Deacon Ed,

Are you coming South for the convention?

A good opportunity to visit B'ham biggrin The Church is abuzz like a bee hive. Sat. we are making falafel and something else for the convention.

We actually have a website for the church now, of course it is more convention oriented for now, but I am sure it will become a web site for the Church proper after convention. http://www.saintgeorgeonline.org/index-1.html

Pani Rose aka Shas'mas(never can spell that)
No, unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it (that's the problem with having to work for a living!).

Fr. Deacon Edward


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