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Dear Charles,

I thought this might interest you. For anyone that doesn't know, the prayer sung by the dying martyrs was: 'Save oh God thy people and bless thine inheritance'...(Soson Kyrie ton laon sou kai evloyison tin klironomian sou")


Holy Royal Martyrs, pray unto God for us!

Alice
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Murder of the Grand Duchess Elizabeth
Compiled By Archimandrite Nektarios Serfes
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Ryabov (the assassin) -4/17 July -Alapaevsk
We knew that the fate of the tsar and his family Ekaterinburg, and of the other members of the imperial family in Alapaevsk, had already been decided in Moscow, and were only waiting for the order to carry out the sentence.

We had already been searching for a suitable place. We quickly found such a place, some tweleve versts from the town, where the bodies would not be found immediately. We chose an abandoned half-flooded mine. Upon receiving the news of the execution of the tsar and all his family from Ekaterinburg we immediately put our plan into action, without losing a moment's time.

It was night of the 17th to 18th July, 1918. When we were sure the whole town was asleep, we quietly stole through the window into the school building. Nobody there noticed our presence, they were already all asleep. We entered through the unlocked door into the building where the women were sleeping, and woke them up, telling them quietly to get dressed at once, as they were to be taken to a safe place because of the possibility of an armed attack.

They obeyed without a murmur.We tied their hands behind their backs there and then, blindfolded them, and led them out to the cart, which was already waiting by the school, sat them in it and sent them off to their destination.

After that, we went into the room occupied by the men. We told them the same thing, as we had to the women. The young grand dukes Konstantinovich (KR's sons) and Prince Paley (Vladimir) also obeyed meekly. We took them out into the corridor, blindfolded them, bound their hands behind their backs and put them in another cart. We had decided earlier that the carts should not go together. The only one who tried to oppose us was the grand duke Sergei Mikhailovich.

Physically he was stronger than the rest. We had to grapple with him. He told us catagorically that he was not going anywhere, as he knew they were all going to be killed! He barricaded himself behind the cupboard and our efforts to get him out were in vain. We only lost precious time. I finally lost my patience and shot at the grand duke.

However I only fired with the intention of wounding him slightly and frightening him into submission. I wounded him in the arm. He did not resist further. I bound his wound and covered his eyes. We put him in the last cart and set off. We were in a great hurry: the dawn already harolded the morning.

Along the way, grand duke Sergei Mikhailovich again repeated he knew they were all going to be killed.

'Tell me why' he asked me. 'I have never been involved in politics. I loved sport, played billiards...was interested in numismatics.'

I reassured him as best I could, although I was myself very agitated by everything I had been through that night.

Despite his wounded arms and the pain, the grand duke did not complain.

At last we arrived at the mine. The shaft was not very deep and, as it turned out, had a ledge on one side that was not covered by water.

First we led grand duchess Elizabeth (Ella) up to the mine. After throwing her down the shaft, we heard her struggling in the water for some time. We pushed the nun lay-sister Varvara
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down after her. We again heard the splashing of water and then the two women's voices. It became clear that, having dragged herself out of the water, the grand duchess had also pulled her lay-sister out. But, having no other alternative, we had to throw in all the men also.

None of them, it seems, drowned, or choked in the water and after a short time we were able to hear all their voices again.

Then I threw in a grenade. It exploded and everything was quiet. But not for long.

We decided to wait a little to check whether they had perished. After a short while we heard talking and a barely audible groan. I threw another grenade.

And what do you think - from beneath the ground we heard singing! I was seized with horror. They were singing the prayer: 'Lord, save your people!'

We had no more grenades, yet it was impossible to leave the deed unfinished. We decided to fill the shaft with dry brushwood and set it alight. Their hymns still rose up through the thick smoke for some time yet.

When the last signs of life beneath the earth had ceased, we posted some of our people by the mine and returned to Alapaevsk by first light and immediately sounded the alarm in the cathedral bell tower. Almost the whole town came running. We told everyone that the grand dukes had been taken away by unknown persons!

(Source: "A LIFELONG PASSION, NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA THEIR OWN STORY"., Andrei Maylunas and Sergi Mironenko., Doubleday, New York., February 1997., pp. 638-639).


Glory Be To God For All Things!

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Thanks Alice. I know this story. Even with the passage of time, it's still horrible. Truly Satan ruled in Russia during that time, and for many years afterwards.

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Dear Moderator Alice,

A ROCOR friend of mine and former employer told me about his visit to see the Relics of St Elizabeth and the Nun St Barbara in Jerusalem.

The Arks of both are in a room where the aroma of sanctity is overwhelming, he said.

And the Body-Relics of both are incorruptible and exude myrrh which is collected.

The myrrh can literally make their Bodies swim in the Arks . . .

Something similar occurs with St Charbel Makhlouf's relics, do they not?

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Esteemed Moderator Alice,

Our priest visited Jerusalem as a then Evangelical Protestant who had never heard of Orthodoxy. By chance he went to the Church of St. Mary Magdalene on the Mount of Olives and saw the sarcophagi containing the relics of the two saints.

When they converted his Khouria took as her name saint the martyrd grand duchess Elizabeth.

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Thankyou my dear friends Alex and Andrew for that information. smile

The story about the grand Duchess Elizabeth and the others that suffered that terrible fate with her, never ceases to make me emotional. frown

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One of the Reasons ROCOR was looked at as a joke for so many years. Was their fanatical attachment to the Romanovs. They were always calling for their restoration.
Nicholas II was an anti-semitic despot ! Who thought God made him Tsar and that he shouldn't do anything progressive for the Russian people.
He died defending autocracy,not Orthodoxy.He is also not a saint.When the ROC beatified ? the Imperial family. The world attacked the action as insanity and showing how medieval it was.In defense the ROC said they weren't Saints but 'Passion Bearers"
which was less than Saints.
If the world looked at ROCOR as a joke then that probably means ROCOR is wonderful.

He died submissively which is why he is a passion bearer.

Passion bearers are not less than saints but a category of saints.

I suggest you read up on Orthodoxy some more before posting about it.

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I guarantee that if you read the first hand account of someone who lived with and saw the loving and lovely Royal family before and after their captivity, in the book I mentioned above, that you will feel differently about the whole family being made 'Passion Bearing' saints.
Sorry, Alice, I might have have been a little unclear. I can buy into the idea that the Romanovs were, indeed, saints. All I meant to say was that some things do make me hesitate about calling Nicholas a full-on saint, but there are such things about all individuals, I suppose. No one is perfect, so I didn't mean to insinuate that I definitely don't buy into their sainthood.

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Hi Teen,

I think that we may be having a problem with this faceless medium of the written word! frown
I did not mean to insinuate that you did not buy into the sainthood of the Romanovs. I just was trying to say that, *if you are like me*, this book will allow you to experience, to feel, and to see, their spiritual life more than 'Nicholas and Alexandra' did.

Before reading the awesome first hand account in the book I mentioned earlier, I did not contest the Church's wisdom in declaring them saints, but I did not have a profound feeling for their sanctity. Now I most definitely do, and in an incredible way. cool

If you like to read, try to get this book. It is fairly short and good summer reading. smile

Wishing you academic success in your college studies,
(one could say that you are growing up here on Byzcath before our very eyes! *WINK*)
Your friend in Christ,
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I'm not Russian, I am a westerner of Irish and spanish descent. I will simply say that of all saints to focus on I would not start with Tsar Nicholas because he is so attached to a russian nationalism. Frankly, I'm still surprised Josemar�a Escriv� was made a saint. He Another similar semi-nationalistic figure in the Spanish revolution. Someone in spain there had terminal skin cancer and prayed for his interciession and was cured. Tsar Nicholas appears to have had miracles more numerous than Josemaria. Someday we're going to have to content with churches named after both Josemaria and Nikola. I can't argue with miracles but we should keep pointing out the flaws in our saints as well. Otherwise we will be committing the "sin of ommission" And I dare say that is A VERY BIG SIN people often ignore!

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Dear Criostoir,

The members of the Romanoff family (which includes Tsar Nicholas) are considered 'passion bearers' --not quite saints as we *usually* think of saints....

In the Russian Orthodox tradition, a 'passion-bearer' is one who faces his death in a Christ-like manner. Unlike martyrs, passion-bearers are not explicitly killed for their faith, though they hold to that faith with piety and true love of God.

I hope this clears things up a little for you and puts the honor given to their type of sanctity (which has nothing to do with nationalism or their more worldly years) into perspective.

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A Christoir - perhaps you would like to join me in encouraging devotion to the Blessed Emperor Charles, beatified by Pope John Paul II. He certainly does not lend himself to nationalism.

There is already at least one lovely church dedicated to St. Nicholas II.

Saints Boris and Hlib (Gleb) are perenially popular and there are many churches dedicated to them - they too are venerated as passion-bearers.

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There is a large icon print on the back wall of the St Nicholas Russian Catholic Centre in Melbourne (Australia) which is in 3 sections. 1st The Baptism of Kiev, 2nd all the saints of Russia and the 3rd is the New Martyrs of Russia. In the middle of this group are the Royal Matyrs. It was a gift from a ROCOC Priest.

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I'm sorry; I know they were personally devout, but there are well-documented accounts of excess under their rule. And the whole matter of Rasputin should not be glossed over. It would be like a modern disciple of Rajneesh being declared a saint...
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Dear Criostoir,

Actually, Tsar St Nicholas Romanov was anything BUT a Russian nationalist.

He was only 1/125 Russian by blood, as I understand. But more importantly, he was a truly European aristocrat who was fluent in five languages, English and French among them, who felt at home in London and Paris just as much as in St Petersburg.

He was a Russian patriot which is why he insisted on being called "Tsar" rather than "Emperor."

But as for nationalism being some kind of limitation or even vice - that is quite the crock of nonsense, sir!

If we followed your logic, then Pope John Paul II should never be advanced to sainthood - now there was a Polish nationalist as well as a patriot!

He canonized many Polish saints including one St Raphael Kalinowski, a Carmelite sent to Siberia precisely as a POLE (and I'm not talking about the things that hold up telephone lines . . .).

There are many kinds of nationalism and not all are evil.

Tsar St Nicholas Romanov was probably the gentlest Russian sovereign ever to reign over Russia.

He was martyred NOT because he was an "enemy of the people" as the Bolsheviks said. He was martyred precisely because he was promoting land and democratic reforms that alarmed the Bolshevik movement since such reforms would have pulled out the carpet of opportunity from under them.

Ultimately, the Russian Revolution occurred because the West, especially Germany, allowed it to occur and even promoted it.

It was Germany that released Lenin to go into Russia - like a fast-spreading cancer cell . . .

Alex

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